Who licenses dog trainers?

[borzoimom]

Good enough for me Borzoid, experience, credentials, and credibility with a line up is good enough for me .

Thats Mikes way of saying my name casual. My certifications require license and after reading all this, with my experiences, I can say this- it scares me others can claim to be certified after I have SPEND SO MUCH money, time and effort. I know who I am - ... And it scares me to death, that people that have no certification can be " a trainer- "... Jeez- no wonder behavior problems run rampant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NicoleLJ]

Jeez- no wonder behavior problems run rampant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am sorry but this statement bugs me. I know many a certified trainer that have wrecked dogs with their training. And I know many a trainer who are not certified that train exceptionally great dogs. Majority of the training schools, police training centers and Service dog training facilities were strated by people who had NO certifaction. All certifaction is is a piece of paper. Nothing else. Blaming non certified trainers for the "behaviour problems run rampant" is very judgemental and is false in my opinion.
Nicole

[caseysmom]

Thats Mikes way of saying my name casual. My certifications require license and after reading all this, with my experiences, I can say this- it scares me others can claim to be certified after I have SPEND SO MUCH money, time and effort. I know who I am - ... And it scares me to death, that people that have no certification can be " a trainer- "... Jeez- no wonder behavior problems run rampant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It seems that a lot of things scare you to death, chill out. People need to evaluate anyone they choose for a service, license or not.

[Kfamr]

Do you EVER stop??

This bickering every night is incredibly annoying and why many long-term PT'ers no longer frequent as much as they used to.

[caseysmom]

Do you EVER stop??

This bickering every night is incredibly annoying and why many long-term PT'ers no longer frequent as much as they used to.

I know many people who stay away now

[applesmom]

Thats Mikes way of saying my name casual. My certifications require license and after reading all this, with my experiences, I can say this- it scares me others can claim to be certified after I have SPEND SO MUCH money, time and effort. I know who I am - ... And it scares me to death, that people that have no certification can be " a trainer- "... Jeez- no wonder behavior problems run rampant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whoa!

[borzoimom]

Whoa!

YUP!!! YOU heard me- no wonder we get so many posts I tried this trainer and that.
My opinion now- after reading all this- ALLLLLLLLLL TRAINERS THAT CALL THEMSELVES trainers need to be certified by a REAL SCHOOL and FORCED TO CARRY a license like I do.. This has scared me to death- mail order certificates- GOOD LORD!!!! jeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!

[DrKym]

Popcorn anyone???

[NicoleLJ]

Popcorn anyone???

I will take some of that popcorn. Thanks.
Nicole

[agilityk9trainer]

Popcorn anyone???

LOL!! I mean, really lauging out loud!!

As I stated previously, I don't want the government getting into licensing trainers. Not only does the red tape boggle the mind (try getting an agility school zoned in a city in America...talk about red tape...I'm over my head in it right now), but having the government dictate what I might or might not teach is dangerous. I'm ab all-positive trainer. What if the government decides that force training is the best and only method we should use. I refuse to use those methods. They destroy agility dogs. What if the licensing requirements are that I must conform to those force training rules...use of training collars, no clickers, no treats, etc.

The government does need to regulate abuse. No doubt there. But to require a license? Not a good idea to get the government involved.

If you want to find a good trainer, look at the trainer's students. How do they do? Do they meet the expectations you require? Visit class. Do the dogs act happy? Are the people happy? Are the dogs well-behaved for the class-level? Does the trainer offer good class management?

If you're looking for competition training, look further. Look at titles. Look at show results. Especially look at students' results. Ask around. Pull students aside and ask. With a little groundwork, you can find some excellent trainers out there.

I have hesitated posting the following, as I fear it sounds like I'm a braggart. However, here goes. While I did receive "accreditation" for free from a previous dog training employer, I do not have any "certification" or "license," as they are useless. (As was the "accreditiation") Even so, I usually have a year long waiting list and am told my reputation locally is spotless. Word has come back to me that some are calling me the best agility trainer in the state. (I do not agree, with that, BTW. There is one other trainer who exceeds me) Do I need a certification to get a rep like that? No. I need good training techniques, students who excel at the sport and my own dogs who excel as well.

You want to find a good trainer? Don't look for certification. Look for results.

[NicoleLJ]

You want to find a good trainer? Don't look for certification. Look for results.

That was the best statement all night. Great post.
Nicole

[agilityk9trainer]

That was the best statement all night. Great post.
Nicole

Thank you. And I agree that Caseysmom's dogs are probably quite bright.

[borzoimom]

Popcorn anyone???

WHAT THE HEY.. Can I have extra butter on mine???

[NicoleLJ]

YUP!!! YOU heard me- no wonder we get so many posts I tried this trainer and that.
My opinion now- after reading all this- ALLLLLLLLLL TRAINERS THAT CALL THEMSELVES trainers need to be certified by a REAL SCHOOL and FORCED TO CARRY a license like I do.. This has scared me to death- mail order certificates- GOOD LORD!!!! jeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!

ummm why? If you can prove to me that ALL certified trainers make NO mistakes and have not ruined or caused any behavioural issues in any dogs then I will jump on your band wagon. Otherwise all you are requesting is for the government to have more control in our lives in areas where they do not need to be.
Nicole

[caseysmom]

YUP!!! YOU heard me- no wonder we get so many posts I tried this trainer and that.
My opinion now- after reading all this- ALLLLLLLLLL TRAINERS THAT CALL THEMSELVES trainers need to be certified by a REAL SCHOOL and FORCED TO CARRY a license like I do.. This has scared me to death- mail order certificates- GOOD LORD!!!! jeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!

To be honest I would rather not have you train my dogs, you seem rather high strung to me and I would think the dogs would do better with a calmer person. Your stories change a lot, you said 2 or 3 pages before you had to be in class in 15 minutes.