Who licenses dog trainers?

[Ceph]

I just wanted to put something out to agilityk9trainer -

some of us dont have the luxury of obedience clubs near us...so what do we do? All we can do is take the learning we can get and work with it until we are ready to do our own thing. I did my training in conjucture with the equine training and behavior class last semester (they only teach horse behavior at mny school, not companion animal, but alot of the basic theories are the same, though equine training is by far the more dangerous), plus a companion animal class this semester....and helping out with a friends dog....but I cant drive the hour to roanoke to find an obedience club...so I took the other avenue available to me. I feel like I have learned alot, but I know need to learn more (still not done though), which is why I dont intend to just randomly start out on my own...its why I buy books, ask questions and attended classes with my own puppy myself.

please dont make those up us that chose to go with a cert. program sound like fools that got taken advantage of....its obnoxious.

[Ginger's Mom]

I didn't know that dog trainers are regulated or had to be licensed in the united states. Are they licensed by the city, state or county? What kind of qualifications are required in order to become a licensed dog trainer?

I am confused as to the purpose of this thread. Did you pose a question that you had already researched and to which you already had an answer? It would appear that way from your responses to some of the posts. And if you did, the question would be why did you feel the need to do so? If you wanted to share the information that you already had you certainly could have done so without so much hoopla and debate.

[Ceph]

I am confused as to the purpose of this thread. Did you pose a question that you had already researched and to which you already had an answer? It would appear that way from your responses to some of the posts. And if you did, the question would be why did you feel the need to do so? If you wanted to share the information that you already had you certainly could have done so without so much hoopla and debate.

That's also probably true too.

(shame on me for getting involved, but eh)

[applesmom]

I am confused as to the purpose of this thread. Did you pose a question that you had already researched and to which you already had an answer? It would appear that way from your responses to some of the posts. And if you did, the question would be why did you feel the need to do so? If you wanted to share the information that you already had you certainly could have done so without so much hoopla and debate.

Nope! I researched it as the discussion progressed!

[agilityk9trainer]

I just wanted to put something out to agilityk9trainer -

some of us dont have the luxury of obedience clubs near us...so what do we do? All we can do is take the learning we can get and work with it until we are ready to do our own thing. I did my training in conjucture with the equine training and behavior class last semester (they only teach horse behavior at mny school, not companion animal, but alot of the basic theories are the same, though equine training is by far the more dangerous), plus a companion animal class this semester....and helping out with a friends dog....but I cant drive the hour to roanoke to find an obedience club...so I took the other avenue available to me. I feel like I have learned alot, but I know need to learn more (still not done though), which is why I dont intend to just randomly start out on my own...its why I buy books, ask questions and attended classes with my own puppy myself.

please dont make those up us that chose to go with a cert. program sound like fools that got taken advantage of....its obnoxious.

LOL!! I've never been called obnoxious.

I can see in your situation where you might seek some outside help. However, if I remember rightly, ABC costs about $3,000. I wouldn't pay that. I, had to drive TWO hours one-way to get the training I desired from my training mentor. I did it often, and still attempt to do so as time permits. If you really want to get good, you make these sacrifices. I am now considering driving 1/2 way across the US to get to a trainer I much admire. This is what you have to do to better yourself. However, the training you get from ABC is pretty basic. If it's stuff you can get with an easy hour's drive from your house, then I'd certainly go that route instead. Not only will you learn, but you will also develop local contacts and increase your rep. among the doggie community. Training alone at home will not give you these valuable contacts and reputation. In our business, reputation becomes everything.

If you want to get good, you make sacrifices. Back in the early 90s when agility was just starting, people in my area had to drive for 10 hours to get their training. And, they did it. Two hours is nothing compared to that. You do what you have to do to get good.

[Ceph]

LOL!! I've never been called obnoxious.

I can see in your situation where you might seek some outside help. However, if I remember rightly, ABC costs about $3,000. I wouldn't pay that. I, had to drive TWO hours one-way to get the training I desired from my training mentor. I did it often, and still attempt to do so as time permits. If you really want to get good, you make these sacrifices. I am now considering driving 1/2 way across the US to get to a trainer I much admire. This is what you have to do to better yourself. However, the training you get from ABC is pretty basic. If it's stuff you can get with an easy hour's drive from your house, then I'd certainly go that route instead. Not only will you learn, but you will also develop local contacts and increase your rep. among the doggie community. Training alone at home will not give you these valuable contacts and reputation. In our business, reputation becomes everything.

If you want to get good, you make sacrifices. Back in the early 90s when agility was just starting, people in my area had to drive for 10 hours to get their training. And, they did it. Two hours is nothing compared to that. You do what you have to do to get good.

Dude, I'm at a senior military college. I wear uniform 5-7 days a week and I have to request leave to drive anywhere....I take 18 credit hours a semester and I am at a technical school(Virginia Tech) which is a wildly difficult school to attend....tell me when I have time to drive two hours to go anywhere. I have a curfew, I have a certain number of leaves a semester, and not only that, I am a member of the military marching band (which is also my company). I havent had a single 'normal year' of college....I study, I march, I clean my room, attend class and press my uniform, I attend Guard Drill and I work in a shelter and with my mentor. I wake up at five and go to bed at midnight, I exercise regulalry because it's expected, and I go out to the barns to check on the horses that are a part of my classes. I dont see my parents or my brother ever because my weekends are taken up doing military and Guard duties. Maybe if I am lucky I see my boyfriend of a year. I cant wait to get out of college because for once I might actually have *time* to do things. Believe me when I say I know what sacrifice is...And driving two hours is not a sacrifice I can make.

Though it is nice that my mentor is in addition to being a ABC cert. teacher and agility teacher with alot of students in the local area....thats pretty good in my mind.

It also helps that my car is 15 years old and falling apart at the wheels...I decided to do this because I love working with dogs, and because when I do graduate I need a job outside of the National Guard...Dog training seemed like a logical choice, and once I do graduate and have time I will work with others, but until then I take the avenues available to me.

[agilityk9trainer]

Dude, I'm at a senior military college. I wear uniform 5-7 days a week and I have to request leave to drive anywhere....I take 18 credit hours a semester and I am at a technical school(Virginia Tech) which is a wildly difficult school to attend....tell me when I have time to drive two hours to go anywhere. I have a curfew, I have a certain number of leaves a semester, and not only that, I am a member of the military marching band (which is also my company). I havent had a single 'normal year' of college....I study, I march, I clean my room, attend class and press my uniform, I attend Guard Drill and I work in a shelter and with my mentor. I wake up at five and go to bed at midnight, I exercise regulalry because it's expected, and I go out to the barns to check on the horses that are a part of my classes. Maybe if I am lucky I see my boyfriend of a year. I cant wait to get out of college because for once I might actually have *time* to do things.

Though it is nice that my mentor is in addition to being a ABC cert. teacher and agility teacher with alot of students in the local area....thats pretty good in my mind.

I'm not a "dude." And, if you're that busy, then I doubt you're getting the hands-on experience you really need to become a great trainer, making my suspecisions of ABC grow even stronger.

If you're so busy you can't even drive an hour away, then you are not ready to become a dog trainer. It takes time and energy. Lots of both. And, determination to get with the best trainers possible.

Like I said, if you want to get good, you make the sacrifices. If you can't make them, then you can't get good.

If you want to get great, the sacrifices become even more intense.

The choice is your's. Of course, I can see why you bristle at my opinion of ABC. You've spent a lot of money to get certified with them. I'm sorry you're offended, but you CAN get for free what ABC is charging you $3,000 for (even if you have to drive an hour to do so). The truth sometimes stings.

[Ceph]

I call everyone dude, so dont worry about it.

Honostly, I dont care as much what you think...what matters is that I do the best for the people I work with. What's important is the willingness to learn about it, to try and make yourself better. It might take me a little longer to get there, but I'll be danged if I dont. To be able to accept new idea's...it's why when I get out of here I am going to start small and work my way up...because I figure I will learn more that way...It's also why I spend my spare time reading...because I learn from that as well...

Plus, I have a great background in animals. I may know more about horses, but my major requires general animal behavioral classes, genetics, repro, anatomy, phys, and nutrition. You know, a BS in Animal Sciences can't hurt at all....and that took only five years to achieve...and a five hour drive....to add to that I learned a whoooole lot about discipline and business behavior, which cant hurt either.

People can get to the same place through different methods...It takes time and work, but one way isnt always the only way. Do what works for you...for me it wasnt about the money...The National Guard pays my tuition, which helps me out alot....so I dont care whether or not I wasted it....I feel like I have had a rewarding experience...and thats what matters to me...that I got something out of it.

I have also learned to not be intolerant of different methods of doing things...one should do what works best for them. Being intolerant of different ways people do things...is well....kinda obnoxious.