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    Quote Originally Posted by Pembroke_Corgi
    I just wanted to point out that saying that because anything can kill a person, guns are fine is a logical fallacy. Like Jackie said, guns are designed to kill things, cars, golf clubs, etc, are not. And, people may be the ones to pull the trigger, but they'd have a much harder time killing anything without a gun. What about all the unintentional injuries and casualties that occur- such as children getting into guns...is that just the "people" not the guns?
    Giving up freedoms in the name of "security". Doesn't the government already control to much of our lives?

    I think you are naive and a victim to be....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31
    Giving up freedoms in the name of "security". Doesn't the government already control to much of our lives?

    I think you are naive and a victim to be....
    Wow, it is so interesting to me how, when presented with an opposing viewpoint, you will go to such lengths to disagree. Everyone is "up in arms" about someone disagreeing with handguns, which in this country WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO, ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION, and you suggest that I will one day be victim of violence. That is lovely, so eloquently spoken by a pro-gun advocate. Up until now I have been civil, and have taken the time to think out my responses. Well I quit trying to use reason, it's obviously ineffective.

    I thought guns were harmless, why should I be a victim? Or are you threatening me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pembroke_Corgi
    Wow, it is so interesting to me how, when presented with an opposing viewpoint, you will go to such lengths to disagree. Everyone is "up in arms" about someone disagreeing with handguns, which in this country WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO, ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION, and you suggest that I will one day be victim of violence. That is lovely, so eloquently spoken by a pro-gun advocate. Up until now I have been civil, and have taken the time to think out my responses. Well I quit trying to use reason, it's obviously ineffective.

    I thought guns were harmless, why should I be a victim? Or are you threatening me?
    LOL...

    Such an emotional responce, I wonder what that means? If you think these were "great lengths" to disagree with you... I say what I mean and I mean what I say. You might disagree with me but you will always know what I mean. If you cannot handle that, tough.

    You will be a victim because you seem to be the type that would rely on others to keep you safe. If not, what are your plans to protect yourself and those you love if/when civil disorder happens, even if only for a short time.

    Banning JUST handguns, I believe, would not end there. Our "government" takes a mile when you give them an inch.

    Threatening you?? PUH-LEASE. Get over yourself, honey. Keep off my property and don't try to harm me or my family and you ain't got a thing to worry about.

    C, wee unedukated hiks dunna leyek ween u beeg talkin sity peeple cum neer our stuf.

    Now THAT is going to great lengths to mess with ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31
    You will be a victim because you seem to be the type that would rely on others to keep you safe. If not, what are your plans to protect yourself and those you love if/when civil disorder happens, even if only for a short time.
    My plan is to stay away from guns, and keep away from "unedukated hiks!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pembroke_Corgi
    My plan is to stay away from guns, and keep away from "unedukated hiks!"
    unedukated hiks aren't the ones you should be worried about tis' the people who get fed up with them and begin civil disorder. I said it earlier.... the second amendment is the right to keep and bare arms (not the sleeveless kind) to protect ourselves against a tyrranous government... how far away from that do you really see us being?




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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks19
    unedukated hiks aren't the ones you should be worried about tis' the people who get fed up with them and begin civil disorder. I said it earlier.... the second amendment is the right to keep and bare arms (not the sleeveless kind) to protect ourselves against a tyrranous government... how far away from that do you really see us being?

    Wow, a radical Canadian. Didn't know they existed
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    We live near a gun club so I hear them every day. People here like to hunt, even youngsters. There are many many people with legal firearms here, and very few accidents or intentional killings (although they do happen once in a while) What I worry about are things like assault rifles illegally making their way into our streets & neighborhoods. Those weapons have no purpose other than to be used to kill human beings. Resources should be directed at confiscating illegal weapons such as these. Of course, we're talking about a legal system that demands little old grandmas be searched at airports just to be sure the terrorists are getting a fair shake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud
    Wow, a radical Canadian. Didn't know they existed

    Oh, there are more of then than you think. Micheal Moore wants everyone to think all Canadians are tree hugging hippys. Indeed, we in the USA could learn a lot from our northern friends. The thing that jumps out at me most is the wonderfully strong work ethic up there. I honestly cannot recall a time in my many, many visits where I recieved bad customer service at a fast food place or gas station, you know the places where you are lucky to get 3 seconds of decent attention here. Of course, I spend as little time as possible in the bigger cities, London is where I go the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pembroke_Corgi
    My plan is to stay away from guns, and keep away from "unedukated hiks!"
    Seriously, that is your plan?
    "Unlike most of you, I am not a nut."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31

    C, wee unedukated hiks dunna leyek ween u beeg talkin sity peeple cum neer our stuf.

    Now THAT is going to great lengths to mess with ya.
    OK, That made me LOL!

    As for arming myself when "the revolution" comes, I am glad I don't live in America is all I have to say. And if worse comes to worse, I have ten huge bags of dog food in the basement, and I am not afraid to eat it!

    I think I am done with this thread. Still haven't changed my mind, but it was interesting hearing the other point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie
    OK, That made me LOL!

    As for arming myself when "the revolution" comes, I am glad I don't live in America is all I have to say. And if worse comes to worse, I have ten huge bags of dog food in the basement, and I am not afraid to eat it!

    I think I am done with this thread. Still haven't changed my mind, but it was interesting hearing the other point of view.
    Fair enough... To me this issue is about freedom. The more freedom we give to our governments, the less our lives are our own. Ability to own a weapon gives us all the ability to take back those freedoms should it come to it. See, everybody likes to bitch about freedom being taken away, but how many people would actually be ready, as the founding fathers of the USA were, to actually DO something about it? This guy IS. Of course, I pray all the time it never comes to that. Eternal vigilence is the price of freedom.
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