Andy Rooney Totally Said It!!

[jackie]

fortunately I do not live in an area like this......

However, many people live in areas that are littered with gangs, thugs, and miscrients. how exactly would you defend yourself against someone with a gun? personally I am of the mind set "kill or be killed". If someone were threatening me with a gun and I had access to mine I would use it. I would not hope that the police show up in time. of course, you should never own a gun if youare not properly trained in how to use it AND you CAN use it. if you have any doubt that if your life were in danger that you could pull that trigger than no you should never own or operate a deadly weapon. I am not and would not ever recommend a gun to someone that has not been trained to use one. If you own a gun and are not fully trained in how to use it then you are as big a danger to yourself as you are to others. BUT if you are trained it is far more effective than praying the police will get there before you are killed. Of course, this weapon should ONLY be used in a life or death situation. You may not see a reason for a civilian to own a gun but until you are someone you love is put into that kind of situation I wouldn't expect you to see a reason. I hope that you never find a reason to be honest.... but in some places, sometimes.... it can save your life.

Not to mention.... people hunt. therefore they own guns. 9 times out of 10 these are not the people you should be worried about breaking into your home and threatening your life. Banning guns only takes them out of the hands of the responsible owners. It does nothing to stop the thugs that get them illegally and do not have them registered.

OK, we have different opinions.

I still can not think of one single reason civilians need HAND guns. I don't think people hunt with pistols.

I wont pull the thread further away from the OP's topic.

[sparks19]

OK, we have different opinions.

I still can not think of one single reason civilians need HAND guns. I don't think people hunt with pistols.

I wont pull the thread further away from the OP's topic.

Sorry I missed the HAND part. I thought you just meant guns in general.

We are of different opinions because I can definately see why people would want to own a handgun. OK they might not NEED it but we don't NEED a lot of things. I however, can see the reasoning for a hand gun. it prevented my husband from being car jacked and from being threatened by someone else with a gun (unregistered no doubt). Of course he has the knowledge and training to use a hand gun.

One might say "it's just a car... give it to him" but many don't realize that in some of these cases the person being car jacked is either beaten or shot and left for dead. Afterall they have seen the face of their car jacker.... they don't want to be idetified.

[Edwina's Secretary]

How interesting...this thread....like the invasion of Iraq.....based on lies....Andy Rooney did NOT say this....you do...except in very limited circumstances, have to know the english language to become a citizen of the US....anybody actually KNOW of any programs to set up non-citizens/non-residents in business?????....no....

Just more lies, lies, lies.....and hateful, ugly ones at that...old well...same old story....

[TamanduaGirl]

A dog is dangerous no one NEEDS a dog we should ban dogs... Oh wait that's already happening breed by breed just like guns are happening type by type.

Honestly it's the same thing. Just because it is potentially dangerous or scares people is no reason to take others right away to have it, whatever it is. Be it gun, dog or tiger.

We were just talking about guns on anther list. It's a homesteading group and someone in AU asked about people having guns since they can't but it had been mentioned. Farmers and ranchers do need gun and hand guns included. It's the quickest and fasted way to put already suffering live stock down.

I grew up on what is called a homestead now. I look back on it and say we were hill billies My father's dog was poisoned with antifreeze by a neighbor. She was suffering a lot of her blood already congealed from the forming crystals in the blood. He could have made her suffer more loading her up and riving off into town for a vet. Or he could have shot the neighbors. He got his gun and shot the dog to stop her suffering right then. So people do need guns as much as any person needs any modern thing.

We don't need hardly any thing we only need food and shelter. If only living based on need we all should be cave men or at least living as natives used to. Need is actually very subjective.

And yes the intial post was false but it turned into a real discussion of rights and curent events. I don't see it as bad it strayed from the original post especialy since it was false.

[critter crazy]

[QUOTE=jackie]OK, we have different opinions.

I still can not think of one single reason civilians need HAND guns. I don't think people hunt with pistols.

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Actually many handguns are used in hunting! Some areas allow them and some dont, but they are used.