Dog Food Rant-

[elizabethann]

Of the dogs/cats that come in to our hospital with diabetes and pancreatitis 99% of them are fed table scraps. Just ask our 2 most recent clients who lost their dogs to pancreatitis from feeding table scraps just ONE TIME! Type of food and fequency does make a serious difference.

Let me see if I have this correct, they fed their dog table scraps one time and it died? What table scaps did the dog get?

I just don't get it. What did they feed the dog for it to just die like that?

That poor dog and that poor family. They must have felt guilty.

[3GSDMom]

Stepping in for a quick question

What are your thoughts on Maximum?

I'm the type of person that reads the ingredients before I even consider buying the food for my dogs. I went through three entire aisle's of dog food in Petsmart looking at ingredients of over 20 different brands before choosing about 10 brands to further investigate.

Then I happen to walk into Walmart and see Maximum. It has no corn and no by products in it. The affordable price is what makes me wonder if it is a high quality food (about $14-$15 for a 20lb bag, whereas I was paying $25 for a 20lb bag of Chicken Soup).

[borzoimom]

Stepping in for a quick question

What are your thoughts on Maximum?

I'm the type of person that reads the ingredients before I even consider buying the food for my dogs. I went through three entire aisle's of dog food in Petsmart looking at ingredients of over 20 different brands before choosing about 10 brands to further investigate.

Then I happen to walk into Walmart and see Maximum. It has no corn and no by products in it. The affordable price is what makes me wonder if it is a high quality food (about $14-$15 for a 20lb bag, whereas I was paying $25 for a 20lb bag of Chicken Soup).

I am afraid I do not know that one. Maybe its local in your area. Who is the maker? ( making this up but like " made by Iams, Ol'roy, pedigree) etc.. Can you copy the label- I would like to look at it. You got me curious.. lol

[IRescue452]

Commercial foods often cause an enlarged pacreas. I wonder if you can actually find a connection between one time table scrap and the problem, or if the problem was an underlying condition already there.

[3GSDMom]

Heh, figured it would spark your interest

I honestly can't find any other name than Maxximum (I spelled it wrong the first time). It specifically says that there are no Animal By products, No artificial colors, flavors or preservatives. As well as no corn.

I went ahead and took a few pictures of the bag to see if that helps at all. I've never heard of it prior to seeing it at Walmart, but a friend of mine who lives in Wisconsin has heard of it (I'm in California).

Heres what the bag looks like


And here's the ingredients

[borzoimom]

Heh, figured it would spark your interest

I honestly can't find any other name than Maxximum (I spelled it wrong the first time). It specifically says that there are no Animal By products, No artificial colors, flavors or preservatives. As well as no corn.

I went ahead and took a few pictures of the bag to see if that helps at all. I've never heard of it prior to seeing it at Walmart, but a friend of mine who lives in Wisconsin has heard of it (I'm in California).

Heres what the bag looks like


And here's the ingredients

Thank you- its made by a Purina sub.. I recognize it now. It does have corn meal- and rich in glucosime means- its corn heart which is where the nutrition is in the corn..
I do see beet pulp- watch that.. It will make gas in the gut..
My computer doesn't have that one in a lab report to give the actual final product- but lamb is usually more clean.. I will look into it if you want me too and pm you.. It does contain blueberry- which is great for the immune system. And Taurine is good for eye sight.

[3GSDMom]

Thank you- its made by a Purina sub.. I recognize it now. It does have corn meal- and rich in glucosime means- its corn heart which is where the nutrition is in the corn..
I do see beet pulp- watch that.. It will make gas in the gut..
My computer doesn't have that one in a lab report to give the actual final product- but lamb is usually more clean.. I will look into it if you want me too and pm you.. It does contain blueberry- which is great for the immune system.

I'd appreciate it.

Im not familiar with the "fancy" (LOL) names in ingredients so I often have to ask my dad what something is. Once you "dumb" the names down for me I know what to do. LoL.

[borzoimom]

I'd appreciate it.

Im not familiar with the "fancy" (LOL) names in ingredients so I often have to ask my dad what something is. Once you "dumb" the names down for me I know what to do. LoL.

Nahhhh--- you are not " dumb".. lol. Can you copy the ingredients- and then I will edit and tell you what each is for. I tried.. but it wont copy to paste..
Please understand- the corn meal has my eyebrows up- but the rest looks like something better-- . Without knowing the rendering source at this point- its hard to say. But the vitamin mixure looks good and in the right order. And although the FDA doesnt regulate dog food- they do have " truth in labeling.." hmmm.

[borzoimom]

Let me see if I have this correct, they fed their dog table scraps one time and it died? What table scaps did the dog get?

I just don't get it. What did they feed the dog for it to just die like that?

That poor dog and that poor family. They must have felt guilty.

I am not sure what reference to specfic situations Catty meant- but I do know- if you feed a dog cooked meat can cause this condition. Especially if cooked bone..

[caseysmom]

I hope table scraps don't mean raw...blech....thats gross.

[Catlady711]

Let me see if I have this correct, they fed their dog table scraps one time and it died? What table scaps did the dog get?

I just don't get it. What did they feed the dog for it to just die like that?

That poor dog and that poor family. They must have felt guilty.

Both dogs didn't die immediately after eating this stuff, they got sick and just went downhill fast. All the lab work kept looking worse and worse every day.

In the case of the one dog it was fed sausage, I can't remember if it was raw or cooked though.

In the case of the second dog I wasn't there the day it came in for diagnosis, I'm unsure if it was fed table food, or got into the garbage with the table food.

Since I've worked there I've seen the following foods cause pancreatitis...
Sausage
Pizza
Turkey with gravy
Hamburger (like fast food kind)
basically anything spicy or fatty.

And yes just one time of feeding some of these things can cause pancreatitis, although not all pets die from this.

As for the diabetes most of those animals are overweight and have a diet high in fat, or many treats (including table scraps except for raw veggies).

Here are some links on pancreatitis that go into more detail about it.

Pancreatitis

CVM (College of Veterinary Medicine) - pancreatitis

Vetinfo.com - pancreatitis

[borzoimom]

ouch- sausage???? wow.. not good..

[elizabethann]

Yikes! I've fed Fenway pizza, turkey (without the gravy) and McDonald's burgers before!

Basically, he gets a pretty good diet but once in a great while, I will share some of my food (like the above).