Disabled person in Wal-Mart thrown out!

[DrKym]

Again I will reiterate,
No animal here is required to wear vest, collar Id tag, or identification of its Service, it is ENCOURAGED that the owners do so and if owner trained to have it certified, as traveling with a Service animal is easier and less time consuming. It is NOT necessary.

There are several bills being looked into to change and tighten up the law a bit, and maybe they will pass, maybe not.

Point is Nicole is correct and gave a few other websites I would have also given. After nearly 16 years in training and working with several types of Service animals, I must say I couldn't have explained it better myself.

Point of the original OP was that the dog was discriminated against the breed. That may be true but Wal-mart was still within their legal rights, the transaction was allowed to conclude.

The owner of the animal; we will presume was aware of responsibilities as a Service dog user. I say presume as she seems aware, if a bit misinformed of her "legal rights". None of which were infringed upon , unless there is a law that cutting a shopping trip short is now illegal.

On that note she could have also removed the animal shopped until she dropped and no harm done. She chose to try to make it about the breed and the breed only, and that is simple grandstanding.

Just my thoughts ,
kym

[mike001]

Again I will reiterate,
No animal here is required to wear vest, collar Id tag, or identification of its Service, it is ENCOURAGED that the owners do so and if owner trained to have it certified, as traveling with a Service animal is easier and less time consuming. It is NOT necessary.

There are several bills being looked into to change and tighten up the law a bit, and maybe they will pass, maybe not.

Point is Nicole is correct and gave a few other websites I would have also given. After nearly 16 years in training and working with several types of Service animals, I must say I couldn't have explained it better myself.

Point of the original OP was that the dog was discriminated against the breed. That may be true but Wal-mart was still within their legal rights, the transaction was allowed to conclude.

The owner of the animal; we will presume was aware of responsibilities as a Service dog user. I say presume as she seems aware, if a bit misinformed of her "legal rights". None of which were infringed upon , unless there is a law that cutting a shopping trip short is now illegal.

On that note she could have also removed the animal shopped until she dropped and no harm done. She chose to try to make it about the breed and the breed only, and that is simple grandstanding.

Just my thoughts ,
kym

Dr Goodnow, you live in the outer portion of the universe...lol...Unfortunately most of us have to live in the inner portion. But I agree with the US. not having to dress their dogs in some states. Where we are from, we are asked to have proper ID and certification for our SD's. The reason things are getting so strict is because of impersonations of SD's. We don"t have to have a full vest in the heat of summer but the tag is mandatory in our city. I don't really know why the woman was pushing the issue of her service dog, maybe it was to grandstand. Most people fear pitts and Wal-mart would be responsible for any accident, but it seems the matter was settled without too much trouble. This is the whole point of ID and certification, no one can argue with you. Around here we have no access problems because of stricter laws I guess. I was just sent a link from a breeder about people being able to purchase service dog equipment on the internet, I wish I would have saved it.
How reputable is that of a company to offer something like this? I consider it totally innapropriate. You get your tag and vest from your training facility when you graduate.

[NicoleLJ]

Dr Goodnow, you live in the outer portion of the universe...lol...Unfortunately most of us have to live in the inner portion. But I agree with the US. not having to dress their dogs in some states. Where we are from, we are asked to have proper ID and certification for our SD's. The reason things are getting so strict is because of impersonations of SD's. We don"t have to have a full vest in the heat of summer but the tag is mandatory in our city. I don't really know why the woman was pushing the issue of her service dog, maybe it was to grandstand. Most people fear pitts and Wal-mart would be responsible for any accident, but it seems the matter was settled without too much trouble. This is the whole point of ID and certification, no one can argue with you. Around here we have no access problems because of stricter laws I guess. I was just sent a link from a breeder about people being able to purchase service dog equipment on the internet, I wish I would have saved it.
How reputable is that of a company to offer something like this? I consider it totally innapropriate. You get your tag and vest from your training facility when you graduate.

Canada does not require certifaction or tags. Only a doctors note. If you look at my links you will see an official letter from a government official about it. And Service Dogs do not have to be from a facility they can be owner trained. Hence being able to purchase the equipment online. There is nothing wrong with that at all. Do your research please or provide proof to back up your claims. I did. I provided an official letter to back me up. Can you?

Just in case you missed the letter the first time here it is agian:

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/oATZRYK...oBlankname.pdf

It is from the Accessability Directorate of Ontario.
Nicole

[DrKym]

Dr Goodnow, you live in the outer portion of the universe...lol...Unfortunately most of us have to live in the inner portion. But I agree with the US. not having to dress their dogs in some states. Where we are from, we are asked to have proper ID and certification for our SD's. The reason things are getting so strict is because of impersonations of SD's. We don"t have to have a full vest in the heat of summer but the tag is mandatory in our city. I don't really know why the woman was pushing the issue of her service dog, maybe it was to grandstand. Most people fear pitts and Wal-mart would be responsible for any accident, but it seems the matter was settled without too much trouble. This is the whole point of ID and certification, no one can argue with you. Around here we have no access problems because of stricter laws I guess. I was just sent a link from a breeder about people being able to purchase service dog equipment on the internet, I wish I would have saved it.
How reputable is that of a company to offer something like this? I consider it totally innapropriate. You get your tag and vest from your training facility when you graduate.

It is not mandatory in ANY state to have to wear any form of ID.

If it is a town ordinance then that is easily overcome by the ADA act of 1990, in all portions of the USA. No Service animal is REQUIRED to wear one, it is however encouraged.


So the laws are the same in both the inner and outer portions of this USA universe.

[mike001]

It is not mandatory in ANY state to have to wear any form of ID.

If it is a town ordinance then that is easily overcome by the ADA act of 1990, in all portions of the USA. No Service animal is REQUIRED to wear one, it is however encouraged.


So the laws are the same in both the inner and outer portions of this USA universe.

Dr. Goodnow---just to clarify, we don't have states, we have provinces and the US laws don't apply to us

[DrKym]

Dr. Goodnow---just to clarify, we don't have states, we have provinces and the US laws don't apply to us

Then please do not try to apply the ADA laws which are for the states to Canada, my sister lives in Alberta Calgary, and after a few calls around there , they are required to have only a Drs note, it is not required there either for the animal to have tags or other identification on the animal. As I know nothing about the Canadian laws, I will field all questions about that to Nicole who is rather learned about them and has much more accurate information pertaining to Canada, than I do.

[NicoleLJ]

Then please do not try to apply the ADA laws which are for the states to Canada, my sister lives in Alberta Calgary, and after a few calls around there , they are required to have only a Drs note, it is not required there either for the animal to have tags or other identification on the animal. As I know nothing about the Canadian laws, I will field all questions about that to Nicole who is rather learned about them and has much more accurate information pertaining to Canada, than I do.

Thanks so much. It has taken me a long time to learn what I have, and I still have a long way to go. But if I don't know the answer to any of your questions then I know I can find someone for you who does. This is an ever learning process.
Nicole

[DrKym]

Thanks so much. It has taken me a long time to learn what I have, and I still have a long way to go. But if I don't know the answer to any of your questions then I know I can find someone for you who does. This is an ever learning process.
Nicole

Nicole,
As I told you I can pretty much detail every single law.bill, court case and disposition here, but I am not anywhere capable of fielding Canadian laws. You are. I do not believe I have misinformed anyone and please correct me if I have. You have the research on those laws done, and I intend to pick your brain about them too! LOL
Hugs that baby for me and tell him Good Job!

[borzoimom]

Then please do not try to apply the ADA laws which are for the states to Canada, my sister lives in Alberta Calgary, and after a few calls around there , they are required to have only a Drs note, it is not required there either for the animal to have tags or other identification on the animal. As I know nothing about the Canadian laws, I will field all questions about that to Nicole who is rather learned about them and has much more accurate information pertaining to Canada, than I do.

I heard that too all they have to have is a doctors note there. I am not versed on canadian laws in providences..

[mike001]

Borzoid ---Just to get off topic here, I've been wanting to ask you about your dogs. They are a hound breed so I figured with your experience you might be able to shed some light here.
My daughter is thinking of adopting a discarded Greyhound from a Greyhound rescue but we don't know much about them except that they love to be fawned upon and are great couch potatoes. True or False???? I told her she probably wouldn't be able to let it loose except in a fenced enclosure, but I'm not sure about that either. A friend who can help her get one was telling us this. I guess by now you've guessed my daughter wants to save a dog and wants a couch potatoe to fawn over. Any suggestions????

[Kfamr]

Mike001, it would be more suitable if you questioned "borzoid" about their dogs in a thread about their dogs or in a PM.

[borzoimom]

Borzoid ---Just to get off topic here, I've been wanting to ask you about your dogs. They are a hound breed so I figured with your experience you might be able to shed some light here.
My daughter is thinking of adopting a discarded Greyhound from a Greyhound rescue but we don't know much about them except that they love to be fawned upon and are great couch potatoes. True or False???? I told her she probably wouldn't be able to let it loose except in a fenced enclosure, but I'm not sure about that either. A friend who can help her get one was telling us this. I guess by now you've guessed my daughter wants to save a dog and wants a couch potatoe to fawn over. Any suggestions????

Open a post in dog breeds- more than happy to help.