I let ashley up there. She's interested in just being there. Jake tries to get food. He got the loaf of bread down while we were gone and then runner got it from him lol. We've learned to put the bread in cabinet lol. He gets up there looking for food. He has access to kitty food and he eats that. But he's always looking for better We do have dishes on counter. I do them once a day, so theres always a few up there. I just hope he doesn't knock any down.