Hilary discussion continued

[caseysmom]

Sparks...thanks for you intelligent post.

[borzoimom]

Sparks- that summerizes very well my opinions of her as well..

[Ceph]

I didnt delete it because of a difference of opinion- I deleted it to keep things from getting too heated.
You have to understand = where I live outside the DC area, we are innodated with polictics 24/7.. I have seen them turn really bad.
I have every right to delete any thread to keep things from getting heated.

I just wanted to mention this in the Grownup discussion so you maybe understood a little where Borzoimom comes from. I live even closer to DC up in Maryland, and during the election I couldnt go to school without being called an idiot, misogynist (I know thats spelled wrong) a masochist and gullible...try that on a 14 year old girl...and those were my friends. I drove an SUV (evil, world polluter, destroyer) because it was all I could afford...I was evil because I was Catholic and I was a whole host of bad things because I am not a feminist and because I tend to have a bad view of feminists due to the propaganda I was shown by my friends calling me a bad woman because I supported Bush. I joined the Army and I would be raped, I was wasting my life and destroying my soul. Again...at 14 years old the people I considered my friends said these things....it has a really bad effect on how you look at life...makes you very solitary...makes you miss the fun things....makes you hate life a little even. Its still upsetting when I think about how I was treated for being strong enough to be different.
Just so you all know, that is probably what Borzoimom means when she mentions things turning bad in our area. They tend to turn very ugly very fast, and it tends to affect people in a way that most dont understand. Sorry if this is a little late in the thread, but she had the right to delete it.

Edit : Here's my view on the whole politics thing...being in college right now. I am in a military school on a highly liberal campus. My teachers only present one point of view, they only say one thing. I call it lemming-azation. There is nothing more frustrating in life then not being able to make the decision for yourself because you are not being given all the data. Thats what the media does...thank goodness for my Army instructors...the ones that have been over there and served...the green berets and 101st and the 82nd. They tell us about the good and the bad, so at least I can make an informed decision for myself.

And as far as the War....I joined when it happened...and I know that eventually I will be sent over there...It'll probably wreak havoc on me, and on my family...but you know what...I will be doing something...I will be making a difference...I will be serving my nation and I will also be in a position to help protect those to my front and my rear, and to my left and my right. That's worth the most....There are so many things I can do to help....

[borzoimom]

Yes like people ramming into your car for having a different bumper sticker- etc..

[Ceph]

Yes like people ramming into your car for having a different bumper sticker- etc..

yeah....thats about the gyst of it...having your tires slashed, eggs thrown at you....yeah....sneered at in uniform = thats my favorite.

[borzoimom]

lol, or cutting the tires, having eggs thrown at you etc...welcome to Nova and the Metro urbs....where if you're not the same you're the great evil.

Or like my step son- with enough pictures of explosives hidden every where you could not imagine- seeing what he did see- and called an idiot for doing it.. Or going to Haiti to stop the uprising while the people applauded our pressence in the street like a celebration- .. And here is this woman- under the pretext of "I am a woman, wife of an ex president", who cant make up her mind where she stands- quick to judge actions she endorsed, meanwhile- accepted low morality with her own husband.. And back tracking faster than she is walking forward in what she did vote on.. I would love to have a woman president- but at the current time, with the situation in Iraq etc, who are NOT going to accept any advice from a 'woman" the timing could not be worse... When I worked in the post office, we had several woman- that if I as a supervisor but still a woman- if I gave instructions- do you know they would honestly go run to their husbands that worked in another area to see if they should do it???? THAT IS the mentality we are dealing with- that and coupled with the fact- that while they continue to " show grief" at loss of life- they do it again- time and time again.
How I feel about Hillary her self is one thing that I would never vote for her- but the second is what we need to continue in Iraq etc and how they see woman ...
I like would like to have condelissa better than Hillary- at least I know that it would be someone that understands the situation over there better than HIllary.. Even still- knowing how its received to have a " woman in charge"- even that is a gamble.. Its sad- but true- as they say " know your enemies better than you do your friends.."

[RICHARD]

Misogynist...


Finally,
A thread where someene else besides me is 'naughty'



Hillary, you have already been President for 8 years, give someone else a crack at it.

[sparks19]

Hillary, you have already been President for 8 years, give someone else a crack at it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA How true. Bill truly was a puppet and Hillary wore the pants LOL. not only did she wear the pants but she wouldn't even let him in the pants.... Hence Monica LOL

but really, my biggest concern is that women are going to vote for her just becuase she is a woman and not because of her "ideas". Although I don't think there enough of the TRULY feminist out there to make a huge difference in the election but that scares me.

[borzoimom]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA How true. Bill truly was a puppet and Hillary wore the pants LOL. not only did she wear the pants but she wouldn't even let him in the pants.... Hence Monica LOL

but really, my biggest concern is that women are going to vote for her just becuase she is a woman and not because of her "ideas". Although I don't think there enough of the TRULY feminist out there to make a huge difference in the election but that scares me.

With some of the morals antics in the family, I am not really worried about woman voting because its a woman. Alot of woman do not like her for that reason- to them its like she was an opportunist to stay in her marriage- verses supporting the " supporting wife" of a political figure head. ( hince why she took back her previous name..). Now- if it was Rice- yea- maybe.. but not Hillary.