Schutzhund Training?

[borzoimom]

Also applesmom- when she picks up her puppy, she should see- its hard to describe- but there is a look in the eyes of intensity- but also balenced with sincerity.. A pup without sincerity is like shifty in the eye - that is a dog that is either easily distracted or potentially if not trained right- will be hard to get the reliable responses. .. If you contact that one breeder already mentioned- they already know that..

[pitc9]

I love watching it on TV!
I admire the trainers, owners and dogs for their dedication.
I belong to a GSD board and there is a woman that bought a pup for Schutzhund and we've been able to watch him as he grows and learns more and more. It's incredible!!

[applesmom]

Since the moment they told me about this, my head has been spinning because she expects me to know everything about everything concerning the competitive world of dogs. Which of course I don't.

As you know borzoimom when it comes to confirmation, obedience or field work, I'm pretty much in my own element. However when it comes to other aspects of the dog fancy, my knowledge is limited.


They have a very well behaved, well socialized neutered Golden Retriever now, though he's never been to obedience classes. I'm thinking of suggesting that while they're doing their research; they should take the Golden through at least open A obedience training before making a final decision on acquiring a puppy for schutzhund. This would give them the opportunity to experience first hand what is involved and the length of time required to train for complete consistency in various elements.

Assuming basic obedience would be the first steps for any puppy who is eventually going to be trained in schutzhund, it seems logical to me. It would also give them the chance to see if they really want to put this much time and effort into a dog.

What do you guys think?

[borzoimom]

This sport is alot of work- its alot of fun- but alot of work.. And you have to be diligent 24/7 when you have a young one in training. Its concentrated obedience with protection and tracking.
Let them take their golden through several obedience classes with the knowledge this sport is more concentrated than simple obedience. If they feel they " want more" then its the sport for you...

[borzoimom]

If they find regular obedience hard, then this sport will feel like " marine boot camp"... I am not trying to discourage you- as you know- I am just showing the other end of the street.. Its hard work on the people and the dogs and takes major consistancy..

[applesmom]

If they find regular obedience hard, then this sport will feel like " marine boot camp"... I am not trying to discourage you- as you know- I am just showing the other end of the street.. Its hard work on the people and the dogs and takes major consistancy..

That's what I was thinking! If they couldn't get a Golden through Open A, they wouldn't be candidates to train a dog for schutzhund!

In the meantime they can do their research, talk to breeders, attend events and meet other competitors.

Another question. What can anyone tell me about the AKC WDS titles? Aren't they somewhat similar to the shutzhund? Or are they like the AKC Master Hunter titles as opposed to the AKC Field Champion titles? The MH is an individual test. The dog does not compete against other dogs, they are judged by a performance standard. To gain the title of FC the dog is also judged by a performance standard but must actually be pronounced the winner over competition.

[borzoimom]

That's what I was thinking! If they couldn't get a Golden through Open A, they wouldn't be candidates to train a dog for schutzhund!

In the meantime they can do their research, talk to breeders, attend events and meet other competitors.

Another question. What can anyone tell me about the AKC WDS titles? Aren't they somewhat similar to the shutzhund? Or are they like the AKC Master Hunter titles as opposed to the AKC Field Champion titles? The MH is an individual test. The dog does not compete against other dogs, they are judged by a performance standard. To gain the title of FC the dog is also judged by a performance standard but must actually be pronounced the winner over competition.

No they are different.. The Schuzhound title is more of a balenced trail- meaning - its not just sending your dog out- the dog has to determine when its necessary to bite. Its more police oriented- meaning- the dog can break off from going to "hold" and be called back. Just like the Master trails are different so are these.
Actually the people I know only compete in Schuzhound- no other trails exists in our minds.. lol.. Sch. is like qualifying- and judged on their own merit not against each other in many ways. Yes as in Obedience- there is a high in trail- but its not the same to get that as to finish..