Thans for all the info everyone, and especially catladay. I finally slept for a whole 2 hours (after a strait 28 without...can you say zombie?) Snow is showing some interest!!! She is laying with them, under the cabinet. They are having a hard time finding the nipples since she is shaved they keep crawling up her chest where the hair is. A couple have latched on for a bit. Now for weather they are getting something, I guess I will figure it out soon enough. I dont want to disturb her by trying to express any milk as of now. She is getting aquainted. Im SO GLAD, and hope it works out. Silver baby (I still cant sex that one... they are tiny babies) Its still up and down. He does well laying with the babies now, he dont get chilled so easy anymore, still weak though. I will have to watch and see if Snow pushes it away. I now I will still have to feed that one regardless until he improves more. Its in no shape to nurse yet. I think the stimulation from the other crawling on him is actually beneful to keeping him pretty stimulated so he dont give up. Now if I can find some batteries for my camera... Not sure about that, but I will try.