Mr. Biggles is being put to sleep tomorrow

[caseysmom]

Jess, obviously bubba is not as aggressive as mr. biggles, I have never considered his snappyness a big deal I just can't imagine a 12 pound dog leaving a 4inch cut, their mouths aren't even that big.

Dr. Goodnow, we are all entitled to our opinions, we love animals and this animal is going to die.

[king2005]

Jess, obviously bubba is not as aggressive as mr. biggles, I have never considered his snappyness a big deal I just can't imagine a 12 pound dog leaving a 4inch cut, their mouths aren't even that big.

Dr. Goodnow, we are all entitled to our opinions, we love animals and this animal is going to die.

Thats what I was trying to get across, it wasn't just a snap or a bite. Its very different from what your dog did. But I personally believe allowing a dog to snap or nip is asking for problems later on.

Mr. Biggels is the size of a JRT, he has a long snout & his K9's are further forward (his jaw is all screwed up & he has extra K9s in his mouth, which didn't help at all!)...

When I was trying to help Chad stop the bleeding, I never would believe him if he told me that Mr. Biggles attacked him with all the damage that was done. But I was there, so it was him.

[BC_MoM]

You've had this dog not even a month. You're not even giving him a chance. How does it hurt you to wait a while and contact a behaviourlist?? You never should have adopted him if you weren't willing to help him with any problems that could (and did) come along.

[areias]

Is there anyone, anywhere, that could assist her in either placing this dog or helping her out? Does anyone know a trainer (maybe someones friend?) who would take him and work the problem out? Would you be willing to do that, Jess?

What were the circumstances leading to the attack? That would help a lot.

[caseysmom]

Thats what I was trying to get across, it wasn't just a snap or a bite. Its very different from what your dog did. But I personally believe allowing a dog to snap or nip is asking for problems later on.

Mr. Biggels is the size of a JRT, he has a long snout & his K9's are further forward (his jaw is all screwed up & he has extra K9s in his mouth, which didn't help at all!)...

When I was trying to help Chad stop the bleeding, I never would believe him if he told me that Mr. Biggles attacked him with all the damage that was done. But I was there, so it was him.

Jess, who said I allow this? I am not going to run and put him to sleep for gods sake. He only gets mad when I try to take food out of his mouth, he will steal food off a plate if you don't look, hardly a reason for me to euthanize for gods sake he is a dog and has dog behavior, you understand that and move on. bubba interacts with small children all the time and has never snapped, my point was even if he did get vicious I just don't see how he could leave a 4 inch cut.

[king2005]

Jess, who said I allow this? I am not going to run and put him to sleep for gods sake. He only gets mad when I try to take food out of his mouth, he will steal food off a plate if you don't look, hardly a reason for me to euthanize for gods sake he is a dog and has dog behavior, you understand that and move on. bubba interacts with small children all the time and has never snapped, my point was even if he did get vicious I just don't see how he could leave a 4 inch cut.

the way you worded it, is that when he does it you just shove him away... sorry to assume.

He has a long mouth & Chad had to kick him off his arm, so his tooth went into Chad's arm & as he was being Kicked off his tooth dragged along 4" of skin. He bite down more the once & it was only the 1 tooth that drew all the blood.. the others left the swelling & bruses

[Lori Jordan]

Jess, who said I allow this? I am not going to run and put him to sleep for gods sake. He only gets mad when I try to take food out of his mouth, he will steal food off a plate if you don't look, hardly a reason for me to euthanize for gods sake he is a dog and has dog behavior, you understand that and move on. bubba interacts with small children all the time and has never snapped, my point was even if he did get vicious I just don't see how he could leave a 4 inch cut.

Ok this is my last post and i'm moving on,Caseysmom,Good point!Your dog has never nipped a child,Ya know why?Dogs know who is good and bad they are the best judges of character,My Lacy hates Jamies friend Glen,Ya know why He will Play with Maggy and Molly,But when it comes to Lacy he always tells her to go laydown,Why i have no clue she has never done anything and i have told him many times to back off and not come around,Lacy will not give this man the time a day,She stays clear.

Dogs know whether you think it or not,Where you there?When he bit Chad??Dod you see or just walk into it? This dog has obviously had a hard life You got him from a shelter,The Shelter do not always know what kinds of backgrounds these dogs have had or had been delt with.

There is no reason why you cannot get this animal help,that is our job,As animal owners,I consider my guys as my children,And i would go all out to all extremes to get them help,And after everything is done and there has been no improvement then take the next step,Not putting them to sleep,There are millions of people that can help in any given situation,You are being very stubborn,These animals were put on this earth to be loved and cherised,Not to be beaten mistreated in any way NOR TO HAVE SOMEONES BACK TURNED ON THEM!

Instead you have totaly given up,Your just throwing your hands in the air,and washing them with it,If this is your desision,Then in Bears best intrest at heart you should find her a home,With the issues you are having at the moment i do not think you are capable of taking care of any animal,They are like kids sometimes there needs have to come before ours,Remeber they cannot speak and tell us what has happend,Animals deserve everything!

[dukedogsmom]

All shelter dogs have histories. That's the chance we take when giving them a home. My Dasher has extreme separation anxiety. It's common in shelter dogs, I've learned. But I haven't given up on him. I've come here for help and talked to a dog trainer. I've done my research and learned that I needed to change my behavior on my reaction to the damage he caused. I've also learned things to do for him while at home to help him when I do leave. You don't know this dog's history. You haven't even given him a chance to settle in and get used to his surroundings. Adopted dogs need a very stable environment. Even more so than one that was gotten from a breeder or pet store. I'm not sure you and
Chad can provide that. Something tells me that Chad's behavior might be worse than what we know here. I think it would be in the best interest of both dogs to rehome them. But don't be so unfair to Mr. Biggles.

[carole]

Jess i have not read all the posts here, but obviously you have to expect some emotive responses, from a pet site, I understand what you are saying and I am not going to judge you, as i realise what a difficult decision you are making here, the only problem i have is your statement, "he is getting PTS and that's that,"it's like you are not even taking into consideration anything anyone has said, admittingly you did not ask for advice, but of course here on PT that is what you will get, and sometimes it is excellent advice, i feel sorry for the situation in hand ,just wish you had not made your mind up, and was so determined there was no other solution,anyhow having said all that, i guess what has to be done will be, i hope Biggles has a safe trip to the Bridge and you are ok with your decision. good luck.

Jess I am asking you as a friend can you please at least consider some of the options given to you here,of course none of us are walking in your shoes right now, and i really do feel for you,but please try and give biggles a chance,i think even you will feel much better for doing so,but it is entirely your call of course and i respect that,even if it makes me extremely sad, you have to do what you think is best.

[king2005]

Jess i have not read all the posts here, but obviously you have to expect some emotive responses, from a pet site, I understand what you are saying and I am not going to judge you, as i realise what a difficult decision you are making here, the only problem i have is your statement, "he is getting PTS and that's that,"it's like you are not even taking into consideration anything anyone has said, admittingly you did not ask for advice, but of course here on PT that is what you will get, and sometimes it is excellent advice, i feel sorry for the situation in hand ,just wish you had not made your mind up, and was so determined there was no other solution,anyhow having said all that, i guess what has to be done will be, i hope Biggles has a safe trip to the Bridge and you are ok with your decision. good luck.

I said that in a stupid way, I don't think i explained all my options in detail when I typed that(I'm not going back to check, I'll just admit I more then likey didn't explain myself first).. that was purely MY fault there... But having him PTS is my only option & the only option, unless I want to have Bear PTS too for Mr. Biggles actions, which i don't!!!