Mr. Biggles is being put to sleep tomorrow

**Daisy and Delilah** · 02-01-2007, 09:58 AM

After all I've heard in the last ten days about the situation at your house, this really doesn't surprise me at all. Two days ago, we heard of how insane Chad is and you need to find another place to live. Today, Chad is ok and Mr. Biggles is being put down because he attacked someone. The poor little guy is probably reacting from environmental conditions. I would probably attack too if I were in his position.

As someone said, have you taken him to the vet to be 100% sure there is nothing wrong with him? This would seem necessary to eliminate all possible causes.

These stories make me so sad I can barely type this. It seems like the little guy never had much of a chance.

I'm sorry Mr. Biggles.

I have to say: please consider pet ownership more carefully before adopting again. Make sure you know all there is to know about the pet you're bringing home with you. Consider the pet's characteristics as well as the people' characteristics that the pet will be living with.

**Lori Jordan** · 02-01-2007, 10:08 AM

This is so very sad,I hate hearing any dog being PTS,I think any dog can be helped,My Bandit was a very aggressive dog,He nipped my hubby on more than one occasion,But i could not come down to putting him to sleep.He has his problems and so do we im just very against putting any animal down.If this is what you think is best fine,But do not let anyone influence you.There can be help for Mr Biggles!

**Muddy4paws** · 02-01-2007, 10:13 AM

Its a shame hes being put to sleep, It sounds to me that hes got some huge trust issues with both of you and having a unstable enviroment isn't helping at all.

He needs professional help and if you cant provide it for him I think you should find someone who can instead of ending his life, Fair enough you didnt know what issues he had when you took him on but now you do and now is the chance to pass him to someone with more experience than youself who can deal with his issues. I think having him put to sleep is the easy way out to be honest.

**Lori Jordan** · 02-01-2007, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Muddy4paws

Its a shame hes being put to sleep, It sounds to me that hes got some huge trust issues with both of you and having a unstable enviroment isn't helping at all.

He needs professional help and if you cant provide it for him I think you should find someone who can instead of ending his life, Fair enough you didnt know what issues he had when you took him on but now you do and now is the chance to pass him to someone with more experience than youself who can deal with his issues. I think having him put to sleep is the easy way out to be honest.

I agree 100%

**king2005** · 02-01-2007, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Muddy4paws

Its a shame hes being put to sleep, It sounds to me that hes got some huge trust issues with both of you and having a unstable enviroment isn't helping at all.

He needs professional help and if you cant provide it for him I think you should find someone who can instead of ending his life, Fair enough you didnt know what issues he had when you took him on but now you do and now is the chance to pass him to someone with more experience than youself who can deal with his issues. I think having him put to sleep is the easy way out to be honest.

We cannot just rehome him. He MUST be returned to the shelter. & not only that, but Bear HAS to go back with him... Since both dogs have been returned before, they both will be PTS... If I just return Mr. Biggles & tell him he attacked someone, he'll be PTS.

Lets see my options...
1. Loose both dogs & have them die alone
2. Return Mr. Biggles to them telling them he attacked someone & having him die alone in a scary place.
OR
3. Having him PTS with me there comforting him.

I still see 3 as being the best option. I don't care what he did, i can't just let him die alone, thats not right.

**mruffruff** · 02-01-2007, 10:32 AM

Others may not agree with your decision, but I can understand completely.

I rescued a dog several years ago who was pregnant. After she had her pups, she was attached to me. Eventually she became so jealous of anyone that came near me that she would bite without warning. I agonized for along time, discussed it with the vet and ended up sending her to the Bridge. It was the hardest decision I've made in a long time.

I hope Bear will be spared. She has come a long way since you got her.

**king2005** · 02-01-2007, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Daisy and Delilah

After all I've heard in the last ten days about the situation at your house, this really doesn't surprise me at all. Two days ago, we heard of how insane Chad is and you need to find another place to live. Today, Chad is ok and Mr. Biggles is being put down because he attacked someone. The poor little guy is probably reacting from environmental conditions. I would probably attack too if I were in his position.

As someone said, have you taken him to the vet to be 100% sure there is nothing wrong with him? This would seem necessary to eliminate all possible causes.

These stories make me so sad I can barely type this. It seems like the little guy never had much of a chance.

I'm sorry Mr. Biggles.

I have to say: please consider pet ownership more carefully before adopting again. Make sure you know all there is to know about the pet you're bringing home with you. Consider the pet's characteristics as well as the people' characteristics that the pet will be living with.

Chad wasn't a problem in the house near the dogs. Its when he was out in the car with a certain person. That person kept setting him off. Chad yelled & said something horrible to me, so I faught back on the phone with him. He spazed & told me where to go. Then my Anxiety was set off.. thats when I don't do so well. Once again, this didn't happen at home, so how could it have effected the dogs?

I went home after wards, tended to the dogs & Chad went to his friends place. I had his friend talk to him & Chad is back on Effexor & completely normal.

Mr. Biggles has been nipping & snapping since we got him Not reason to put a dog down, as that can be corrected (was trying to do that) & the dog can be trusted after a little time. A dog cannot be trusted after an attack.

**Taz_Zoee** · 02-01-2007, 10:21 AM

I can't believe this is happening!

If I'm not mistaken, Bear and Mr Biggles were VERY close, and that's why you adopted them together. Poor Bear is going to be so depressed. I would NEVER be able to do what you are doing, and honestly I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. One one hand I understand he attacked someone, but on the other I wouldn't be able to bring myself to put down a dog like that. Oh, I can't imagine the stress you are dealing with right now.

I'm sorry for you, Mr Biggles and Bear.

**Lori Jordan** · 02-01-2007, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by king2005

Chad wasn't a problem in the house near the dogs. Its when he was out in the car with a certain person. That person kept setting him off. Chad yelled & said something horrible to me, so I faught back on the phone with him. He spazed & told me where to go. Then my Anxiety was set off.. thats when I don't do so well. Once again, this didn't happen at home, so how could it have effected the dogs?

I went home after wards, tended to the dogs & Chad went to his friends place. I had his friend talk to him & Chad is back on Effexor & completely normal.

Mr. Biggles has been nipping & snapping since we got him Not reason to put a dog down, as that can be corrected (was trying to do that) & the dog can be trusted after a little time. A dog cannot be trusted after an attack.

Going to Pet Smart is not helping Mr Biggles,A confrentation does not need to happen in the home for a dog to react to,The tension is enough for them to react too,If i were you!i would be doing everything and anything to fix the problem,Giving up on him in a day is not a responsible pet owner,Im going to vent a bit....

I was watching Animal Cops last night and it made me so mad

A dog came in off the streets after being abandoned(That sticks for life in there heads i dont care what anyone has to say about that)Anyways they were doing a temeperment test,She put that rubber hand in the food dish and pulled it away,The dog snapped offcourse(THE DOG HAD BEEN STARVED FOR HOWEVER LONG,WOULDNT YOU SNAP)Anyhow the dog was put to sleep because it was"Food Aggressive".With an appropriate trainer you could most likely fix his problems these people can read your animals minds and know what to look for,Giving up on him is not a option in my books,If that is what you are going to do,Please find someone a rescue of som sort where they can help him.

It is not a good feeling to be given up on,Me being there myself!In the future if you cannot deal what has been delt to you maybe you should not own dogs,As a dog owner i have been through this many times before and i have never came to putting any my animals to sleep!They got help and are 100% Different dogs today!I am not trying to be rude but seeing this is upsetting for any animal lover!

**Taz_Zoee** · 02-01-2007, 10:32 AM

I have read in other posts about something called Rescue Remedy, or something like that? And a special batch can be made specifically for your animal directly relating to their issues. I'm sorry, I do not know how to tell you to find it, but I think I was reading it in the cat section. I'm not sure if it's only for cats, or if it would even help an aggressive dog. If I'm not mistaken I believe the person who could get it is Craftlady. This is going to bother me all day. I will be racking my brain to think of solutions.
Is your mind made up? No turning back?

**critter crazy** · 02-01-2007, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by king2005

Chad wasn't a problem in the house near the dogs. Its when he was out in the car with a certain person. That person kept setting him off. Chad yelled & said something horrible to me, so I faught back on the phone with him. He spazed & told me where to go. Then my Anxiety was set off.. thats when I don't do so well. Once again, this didn't happen at home, so how could it have effected the dogs?

I went home after wards, tended to the dogs & Chad went to his friends place. I had his friend talk to him & Chad is back on Effexor & completely normal.

Mr. Biggles has been nipping & snapping since we got him Not reason to put a dog down, as that can be corrected (was trying to do that) & the dog can be trusted after a little time. A dog cannot be trusted after an attack.

didnt you say, that the other day, when bear was stuck upstairs, that Chad drug Bear downstairs, and that is when you said you needed to find a new place???? sounds like it wasnt in the car to me, and that mr. Bigles saw this, and has become leary of chad, afraid he might do the same to Him.

**king2005** · 02-01-2007, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by critter crazy

didnt you say, that the other day, when bear was stuck upstairs, that Chad drug Bear downstairs, and that is when you said you needed to find a new place???? sounds like it wasnt in the car to me, and that mr. Bigles saw this, and has become leary of chad, afraid he might do the same to Him.

That was 2 different things.. Chad got her down.. took him 15 mins, as he took breaks & praised her the whole way down... Mr. Biggles was out ona walk with Andrew, as he kept getting in the way (going under Chad's feet, when he was trying to convince her to come down with food)... I just made the post a quick one & broke up the 2 different topics... I was only implying that I had nothing else to report as I was going to leave.

**Pawsitive Thinking** · 02-01-2007, 10:55 AM

Is there anyone nearby who could help out maybe? Seems to me that a bit of practical help instead of criticism would solve the problem in the short term

**JenBKR** · 02-01-2007, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Brody's Mum

Is there anyone nearby who could help out maybe? Seems to me that a bit of practical help instead of criticism would solve the problem in the short term

Agreed!