Mr. Biggles is being put to sleep tomorrow

[gemini9961]

I agree that some professional help might be in order for Mr. Biggles. I don't think it's fair to put him down because of this. IMO, it seems like you have given up on him.

[king2005]

I was trying to seek help for his snapping, something we all can handle until corrected. But this attack was BAD.. this just wasn't a bite, it was an attack. I'm sorry, but I have stated how I feel about dogs that attack before. There is NO place for them in a human society. I'm positive this wasn't his first attack either.

I've spoken to several people & they all feel the same way we do.

Keeping the dog away from children isn't going to help. HE'S ATTACKING US!! I'm not going to live in fear & the dog shouldn't have to go through feeling unwanted because of this attack.

Sometimes the best option is to have the dog destroyed, as it can never be trusted ever again. Trust is very important!! & there is none now.

If it was just a bite & release then ya, he wouldn't be destroyed as nipps & bites can be corrected & the dog can be trusted later on.. But NOT with an attack...

If your best friend mauld someone, would you still feel the same?? More then likely no, you'd more then likely would say the dog is helpless & its in everyones best interest to have it destroyed... Mr. Biggles is too small to be able to maul someone to death of Chad's size, but he damn well tried to maul Chad & Chad had to fight to get him off!

I'm sorry but he's being put down & do not try to put me down because my dog attacked someone & I feel its best to have him put down.. Its hard enough as it is!

Have you ever been attacked by a dog before?
Your never the same. Sometimes you have to think about people first.
I had to move Mr. Biggles last night after the attack & Chad saw him. Poor Chad screamed in fear & threw whatever he was holding & hit me with it. He ran into the office to get away & kept yelling to keep him away. Thats fair right??

[Pawsitive Thinking]

Ultimately he is your responsibility and it is your decision to make. I don't think you would consider this option if there was any other route

[JenBKR]

I'm so sorry Jess, I'm crying for you and Mr. Biggles. This can't have been an easy decision. ((((hugs))))

[areias]

I have to agree-can you not at least contact a behaviorist? See what their opinion is? Not like..petsmart training...but a certified canine behaviorist? He could be reacting to stress levels in the household...although the issues you talk about happened outside the home, he might be feeling the anxiety through you. There was a trigger-the dog did not "attack" without a trigger. A dog dosen't just walk up to someone and say hmm, i feel like biting them. If you can pinpoint the trigger-you can then take it from there. Did he bend over, open the washer towards the dog? Or was it specifically the door going into the laundry room and he jumped up and bit him? What was the circumstances surrounding the bite?

[Lori Jordan]

Lacy bit me the other night,And it was my fault!Her and Molly went at it again,Jamie(my husband grabbed Molly off of Lacy and i went and grabbed Lacy,At this point Molly has scratches to her eye,Lacy to the back of her head and a bite to her mouth and chest,So that is your first reaction,And im sorry i do not believe in letting them fight it out they already have enough wounds,So i grabbed her and started taking her too the bedroom with me she bit my hand as soon as she realied what she was doing she let go quick,I realize these are two different situations.
I probably startled her which is all my fault i have to take them too classes now Because they need to learn to get along they both are not going anywhere!But i would never think of putting my Lacy down,Owning animals can be hard at times but you have to go with the flow.

[Pawsitive Thinking]

I fully realise that this topic is immotive and is going to cause quite a bit of controversy but maybe a look at the bigger picture might help. The poor kid is going through enough as it is

http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthre...=121128&page=2

[areias]

Here are some decent looking behaviorists in your area. The price is little compared to the life that would be spared.

http://www.animalbehaviour.ca/ab2/do.php?target=index
http://www.whoswalkingwho.net/behaviourconsults.html
http://www.crdogs.com/

And some other trainer resources...
http://www.canadogs.com/Need_a_Trainer.htm

Although you do not want just a "trainer" you want a certified animal behaviorist.

[king2005]

I have to agree-can you not at least contact a behaviorist? See what their opinion is? Not like..petsmart training...but a certified canine behaviorist? He could be reacting to stress levels in the household...although the issues you talk about happened outside the home, he might be feeling the anxiety through you. There was a trigger-the dog did not "attack" without a trigger. A dog dosen't just walk up to someone and say hmm, i feel like biting them. If you can pinpoint the trigger-you can then take it from there. Did he bend over, open the washer towards the dog? Or was it specifically the door going into the laundry room and he jumped up and bit him? What was the circumstances surrounding the bite?

This wasn't just a bite, this was an attack! Mr. Biggles had to be faught off of Chad's arm!

What if Mr. Biggles was the size of Bear. The damage would have been far worse, if the dog could not have been stopped before a human death. Would your feelings still be the same?

I know someone on PT was attacked by 2 Rotties (I think she said it was just the one who did the attacking, I could be wrong) pretty baddly. The poor lady will NEVER be the same mentally or physically. Was it then right to have those dogs PTS? or should they go to a specilest because of poor owners?
No they should be put to sleep before they hurt someone else, as a specilest, can't do mericals over night & regardless, the dogs can never be trusted ever again.

[caseysmom]

Well not to sound insensitive but mr. biggles is not a bear he is 12 pounds. That is exactly my bubba's weight. Bubba is snappy and bitey at times, guess what? I can just shove him away. Sorry but it seems a bit extreme to kill him over this.

[king2005]

Ultimately he is your responsibility and it is your decision to make. I don't think you would consider this option if there was any other route

Its not fair that someone allowed their aggressive dog to go into unsuspecting hands. I refuse to do the same to someone else. If I return him to the shelter & say I'm returning him because he attacked someone, they'll have him PTS the second I hand him over. Atleast with me having him PTS, I can atleast be there for Mr. Biggles as he is PTS, as no matter what a dog shouldn't die alone.

[borzoimom]

Its not fair that someone allowed their aggressive dog to go into unsuspecting hands. I refuse to do the same to someone else. If I return him to the shelter & say I'm returning him because he attacked someone, they'll have him PTS the second I hand him over. Atleast with me having him PTS, I can atleast be there for Mr. Biggles as he is PTS, as no matter what a dog shouldn't die alone.

You are absolutely right... And this is now the second bite- and this does sound like an attack since the dog hung on.. Against public opinion of the previous posts- I am afraid I agree there is no other choice. The bites are not getting less severe- they are getting worse..

[BC_MoM]

The bites are not getting less severe- they are getting worse..

Jess has done NOTHING to help this dog and his issues. Keep that in mind. She is avoiding the problem, not dealing with it. Mr. Biggles is not learning that this is unacceptable behaviour. He's learning he can get away with it.

[borzoimom]

Jess has done NOTHING to help this dog and his issues. Keep that in mind. She is avoiding the problem, not dealing with it. Mr. Biggles is not learning that this is unacceptable behaviour. He's learning he can get away with it.

I do not know- I am not there- but the dog hanging on with a bite is not good news.. A trainer or behaviorist could possibly help- or not- but all I can is what is typed- I cant see the situation- I cant see how the dogs acts normally etc.. Even if one visit with a trainer to see if this really is a full blown or more of a manageable problem.. I do not know..

[Daisy and Delilah]

After all I've heard in the last ten days about the situation at your house, this really doesn't surprise me at all. Two days ago, we heard of how insane Chad is and you need to find another place to live. Today, Chad is ok and Mr. Biggles is being put down because he attacked someone. The poor little guy is probably reacting from environmental conditions. I would probably attack too if I were in his position.

As someone said, have you taken him to the vet to be 100% sure there is nothing wrong with him? This would seem necessary to eliminate all possible causes.

These stories make me so sad I can barely type this. It seems like the little guy never had much of a chance. I'm sorry Mr. Biggles.

I have to say: please consider pet ownership more carefully before adopting again. Make sure you know all there is to know about the pet you're bringing home with you. Consider the pet's characteristics as well as the people' characteristics that the pet will be living with.