Mr. Biggles is being put to sleep tomorrow

[Pembroke_Corgi]

I can only wonder what his old owners had done to him. But saddly an agressive dog like him doesn't belong in a human society & its purely in his & our best interest for him to be put down.

Chad is still shaking & really really stressed. He doesn't want Mr. Biggles to die, but he knows its the best, cause what if it was a child?

Do you have any children? Because if you don't live with any, I don't see why this dog couldn't be kept away from them.

It sounds to me like Mr. Biggles might possibly be helped by professional trainers. Has he been seen by any? Has he seen a vet to make sure there isn't some underlying health issue?

I really don't see how it could ever be in a dog's best interest to kill it, unless it is really suffering and about to die already. You have an aggressive dog. I don't know, maybe this dog is really "beyond" any kind of help or training, but I doubt it.

[gemini9961]

I agree that some professional help might be in order for Mr. Biggles. I don't think it's fair to put him down because of this. IMO, it seems like you have given up on him.

[king2005]

I was trying to seek help for his snapping, something we all can handle until corrected. But this attack was BAD.. this just wasn't a bite, it was an attack. I'm sorry, but I have stated how I feel about dogs that attack before. There is NO place for them in a human society. I'm positive this wasn't his first attack either.

I've spoken to several people & they all feel the same way we do.

Keeping the dog away from children isn't going to help. HE'S ATTACKING US!! I'm not going to live in fear & the dog shouldn't have to go through feeling unwanted because of this attack.

Sometimes the best option is to have the dog destroyed, as it can never be trusted ever again. Trust is very important!! & there is none now.

If it was just a bite & release then ya, he wouldn't be destroyed as nipps & bites can be corrected & the dog can be trusted later on.. But NOT with an attack...

If your best friend mauld someone, would you still feel the same?? More then likely no, you'd more then likely would say the dog is helpless & its in everyones best interest to have it destroyed... Mr. Biggles is too small to be able to maul someone to death of Chad's size, but he damn well tried to maul Chad & Chad had to fight to get him off!

I'm sorry but he's being put down & do not try to put me down because my dog attacked someone & I feel its best to have him put down.. Its hard enough as it is!

Have you ever been attacked by a dog before?
Your never the same. Sometimes you have to think about people first.
I had to move Mr. Biggles last night after the attack & Chad saw him. Poor Chad screamed in fear & threw whatever he was holding & hit me with it. He ran into the office to get away & kept yelling to keep him away. Thats fair right??

[Pawsitive Thinking]

Ultimately he is your responsibility and it is your decision to make. I don't think you would consider this option if there was any other route

[JenBKR]

I'm so sorry Jess, I'm crying for you and Mr. Biggles. This can't have been an easy decision. ((((hugs))))

[areias]

I have to agree-can you not at least contact a behaviorist? See what their opinion is? Not like..petsmart training...but a certified canine behaviorist? He could be reacting to stress levels in the household...although the issues you talk about happened outside the home, he might be feeling the anxiety through you. There was a trigger-the dog did not "attack" without a trigger. A dog dosen't just walk up to someone and say hmm, i feel like biting them. If you can pinpoint the trigger-you can then take it from there. Did he bend over, open the washer towards the dog? Or was it specifically the door going into the laundry room and he jumped up and bit him? What was the circumstances surrounding the bite?

[Lori Jordan]

Lacy bit me the other night,And it was my fault!Her and Molly went at it again,Jamie(my husband grabbed Molly off of Lacy and i went and grabbed Lacy,At this point Molly has scratches to her eye,Lacy to the back of her head and a bite to her mouth and chest,So that is your first reaction,And im sorry i do not believe in letting them fight it out they already have enough wounds,So i grabbed her and started taking her too the bedroom with me she bit my hand as soon as she realied what she was doing she let go quick,I realize these are two different situations.
I probably startled her which is all my fault i have to take them too classes now Because they need to learn to get along they both are not going anywhere!But i would never think of putting my Lacy down,Owning animals can be hard at times but you have to go with the flow.

[king2005]

I have to agree-can you not at least contact a behaviorist? See what their opinion is? Not like..petsmart training...but a certified canine behaviorist? He could be reacting to stress levels in the household...although the issues you talk about happened outside the home, he might be feeling the anxiety through you. There was a trigger-the dog did not "attack" without a trigger. A dog dosen't just walk up to someone and say hmm, i feel like biting them. If you can pinpoint the trigger-you can then take it from there. Did he bend over, open the washer towards the dog? Or was it specifically the door going into the laundry room and he jumped up and bit him? What was the circumstances surrounding the bite?

This wasn't just a bite, this was an attack! Mr. Biggles had to be faught off of Chad's arm!

What if Mr. Biggles was the size of Bear. The damage would have been far worse, if the dog could not have been stopped before a human death. Would your feelings still be the same?

I know someone on PT was attacked by 2 Rotties (I think she said it was just the one who did the attacking, I could be wrong) pretty baddly. The poor lady will NEVER be the same mentally or physically. Was it then right to have those dogs PTS? or should they go to a specilest because of poor owners?
No they should be put to sleep before they hurt someone else, as a specilest, can't do mericals over night & regardless, the dogs can never be trusted ever again.

[king2005]

Ultimately he is your responsibility and it is your decision to make. I don't think you would consider this option if there was any other route

Its not fair that someone allowed their aggressive dog to go into unsuspecting hands. I refuse to do the same to someone else. If I return him to the shelter & say I'm returning him because he attacked someone, they'll have him PTS the second I hand him over. Atleast with me having him PTS, I can atleast be there for Mr. Biggles as he is PTS, as no matter what a dog shouldn't die alone.

[borzoimom]

Its not fair that someone allowed their aggressive dog to go into unsuspecting hands. I refuse to do the same to someone else. If I return him to the shelter & say I'm returning him because he attacked someone, they'll have him PTS the second I hand him over. Atleast with me having him PTS, I can atleast be there for Mr. Biggles as he is PTS, as no matter what a dog shouldn't die alone.

You are absolutely right... And this is now the second bite- and this does sound like an attack since the dog hung on.. Against public opinion of the previous posts- I am afraid I agree there is no other choice. The bites are not getting less severe- they are getting worse..

[BC_MoM]

The bites are not getting less severe- they are getting worse..

Jess has done NOTHING to help this dog and his issues. Keep that in mind. She is avoiding the problem, not dealing with it. Mr. Biggles is not learning that this is unacceptable behaviour. He's learning he can get away with it.

[Daisy and Delilah]

After all I've heard in the last ten days about the situation at your house, this really doesn't surprise me at all. Two days ago, we heard of how insane Chad is and you need to find another place to live. Today, Chad is ok and Mr. Biggles is being put down because he attacked someone. The poor little guy is probably reacting from environmental conditions. I would probably attack too if I were in his position.

As someone said, have you taken him to the vet to be 100% sure there is nothing wrong with him? This would seem necessary to eliminate all possible causes.

These stories make me so sad I can barely type this. It seems like the little guy never had much of a chance. I'm sorry Mr. Biggles.

I have to say: please consider pet ownership more carefully before adopting again. Make sure you know all there is to know about the pet you're bringing home with you. Consider the pet's characteristics as well as the people' characteristics that the pet will be living with.

[Lori Jordan]

This is so very sad,I hate hearing any dog being PTS,I think any dog can be helped,My Bandit was a very aggressive dog,He nipped my hubby on more than one occasion,But i could not come down to putting him to sleep.He has his problems and so do we im just very against putting any animal down.If this is what you think is best fine,But do not let anyone influence you.There can be help for Mr Biggles!

[Muddy4paws]

Its a shame hes being put to sleep, It sounds to me that hes got some huge trust issues with both of you and having a unstable enviroment isn't helping at all.

He needs professional help and if you cant provide it for him I think you should find someone who can instead of ending his life, Fair enough you didnt know what issues he had when you took him on but now you do and now is the chance to pass him to someone with more experience than youself who can deal with his issues. I think having him put to sleep is the easy way out to be honest.

[king2005]

After all I've heard in the last ten days about the situation at your house, this really doesn't surprise me at all. Two days ago, we heard of how insane Chad is and you need to find another place to live. Today, Chad is ok and Mr. Biggles is being put down because he attacked someone. The poor little guy is probably reacting from environmental conditions. I would probably attack too if I were in his position.

As someone said, have you taken him to the vet to be 100% sure there is nothing wrong with him? This would seem necessary to eliminate all possible causes.

These stories make me so sad I can barely type this. It seems like the little guy never had much of a chance. I'm sorry Mr. Biggles.

I have to say: please consider pet ownership more carefully before adopting again. Make sure you know all there is to know about the pet you're bringing home with you. Consider the pet's characteristics as well as the people' characteristics that the pet will be living with.

Chad wasn't a problem in the house near the dogs. Its when he was out in the car with a certain person. That person kept setting him off. Chad yelled & said something horrible to me, so I faught back on the phone with him. He spazed & told me where to go. Then my Anxiety was set off.. thats when I don't do so well. Once again, this didn't happen at home, so how could it have effected the dogs?

I went home after wards, tended to the dogs & Chad went to his friends place. I had his friend talk to him & Chad is back on Effexor & completely normal.

Mr. Biggles has been nipping & snapping since we got him Not reason to put a dog down, as that can be corrected (was trying to do that) & the dog can be trusted after a little time. A dog cannot be trusted after an attack.