*update* Snowy had c-section, HELP ME!!!!**She seems interested!!!!!

[Lizzie]

Snow is still under the effects of the anesthetic and really disoriented. They always try to wander like that, but the stricter the confinement, the better. She might be better kept in her carrier for the next few hours at least, it will force her to sleep it off. Since you can't put the kittens in the carrier with her while she is so confused, in case she lies on them, they need warmth urgently. Put on warm sweaters and place the silver one inside the inside one next to your heart. Do you have a heating pad? Heat vents? As you know, they need to be in a very enclosed space and a heated one. Use the smallest box with woolies inside and place by or over a heat vent. The kittens need kitten formula because cow's milk will give them diarrhoea, though what they told you to feed them is better than nothing at all. They need to be given fluids every couple of hours at this stage - and you are going to be up all night again! If they seem distressed - gassy, diarrhoea, etc. from the formula you have at present, switch to warm water. Nourishment is not as important as fluids and warmth at this point. You will have to borrow money tomorrow to buy some kitten formula, unless Snow starts feeding them. Hopefully, she will come out of the anesthetic haze by early morning and will start nursing.

Good luck! We are all pulling for you, Snow and the kittens.

[emilysgk]

Ok... so like every two hours then?

I have a heating pad under the box to keep them warm. I took care of a puppy once from 2 days old, but it was only one and so much easier all around. Theses guys I cant hardly keep them still to try and feed them, they get some and we both wear some. The silver one is already doing much better. Maybe it will make it after all. Maybe I should put a pop bottle in there with a sock (warmed of course) maybe they would like that more.

They just wont settle at all. Just cry and cry... is that normal? They dont seem to be resting at all really. Im afriad they will wear themelves out. If Snow dont take interet by tomorrow sometime, the cat next door may nurse them. Her babies are about 6wks old now.

[Lizzie]

I don't understand about the pop bottle, what is it for?

Try these web sites with lots of good information, especially on how to feed the babies and not have the stuff go into their lungs, and how to keep them warm without cooking them, and about excessive crying.

http://www.peteducation.com/category...cls=1&cat=1388
http://www.safehavenforcats.com/newborn.htm
http://www.waterloowest.com/articles...nsnewborn.html

[emilysgk]

The pop bottle is for alternate heat source. I had to travel a lot with the puppy and it worked great. Just fill with hot water and put it in a sock. I was thinking maybe it would settle them. They are looking for mom. Keep climbing up and in the blanket. I thought maybe they were too warm, its so hard to keep a good temp, that wasnt it either. Right now they are finally quiet. I took them out of the bathroom long ago in hopes of Snow resting. I dont think she has all that much still, but it has to reduce her stress not to hear them screaming at her. The silver one was doing much better and took a few steps back. Its so fast that they go either way. I havn't gave up hope for it.

In all the time with the kittens, it appears they all have 6 toes. They get it from mom who has 5 1/2.. something like that. Hers looks like two toanails growing together, and most of the babies have a full 6th, one has a half like mom. The 3 calico's are doing very well, extremely active and strong. If I didnt know any better I would want to assume that the silver one was a premie. Deffinate size difference, but also the hair... Its is much thinner and has none really on the belly and legs, you can see through the rest of it. It also looks a lot different... I dont know how to describe it. I suppose it could have something just congenital. Im sorry to ramble, but its 5am and I have not slept a wink tonight and not much more the past two nights. I know if I fall asleep I wont wake up and take care of the babies.

[sprokett]

just giv snow time and shell come around my aunties cat dint take to them for about a whole night we had to lie her down and help the babies drink the milk coz she wouldnt stay still for them but eventually she wouldnt leave them alone it probs just the anesthetic and her being a first time mother shell take to them just try and keep them warm and fed.

[emilysgk]

Well... Snow I think is mostly out of loopy land. She obviously is really unomfortable and still dont want babies. I think she wants them gone actually. See she dont like other cats, not even kittens, and she seems to be thinking of them like she does the others. Her latest is some very severe growls at a baby. It was not and had not touched her at all. She was sitting up looking annoyed at it, it happened to squirm her way and thats what she done. (I let her out of the bathroom around 6am.) Okay... she just now climed on the couch. Didnt jump, just put her fronts up and climbed the back end up. Well she is settled in now looking to the other side of the room where the babies are still crying and looking annoyed. I hope she feels better soon. But I know Snow, and im afraid that since she didnt havve the babies, just woke up feeling like crap with them here... She may not take to them. She truly detests other cats of all kinds.

[Catty1]

If you can get a bit of her milk, and rub it on the babies, it might help.

Occasionally, momcats are like that.

Have you asked your vet about this?

I know a few people on this board have bottle fed kittens - jenluckenbach, reachoutrescue, etc. It sounds like you know what you are doing.

Is there a friend who can spell you off every so often so you can sleep?

HUGS

[aki]

Poor Snow! She prolly dosen't understand what happened to her and where these alien cats came from.

I don't have much to add for advice, since i have never been in that situation, but I can offer my prayers that everything will be okay.

~Aki