Insane barking... Update: Problem solved..NOW disscussing feedings/crating/etc on pg4

[borzoimom]

King- get those plug ins used for a dog that is nervous.. I know the procedure is the last resort- ...

[king2005]

There will probably be people here who will get on me for it, but I DID use a shock collar with my rottie/aussie, Rosie. She barked a lot, especially at night. She was fine as a puppy, but started barking as an adult. We worked really hard at trying to train her out of it, but still found myself getting up at 1 am or 2 am and spending an hour quieting her down. This went on for months. So we did resort to a shock collar. I used it on me first, and it did surprise you with a shock, but it didn't "hurt". You have to train them with the collar. Ours came with a video on how to train. Using it solved the barking problem quickly. The one we used had a progressive shock, so it started out very mild. if the dog kept barking, it got stronger. The most I ever heard her bark in a row was twice. After a while, all I had to do was strap it on her (which I did every night) without turning it on, and she knew to be quiet. She also got to know that "Quiet, no bark" meant no barking. I always rewarded her being quiet with lavish attention & treats.

I would certainly invest in a shock collar (ours was about $75.00) before I'd consider de-barking a dog- that seems "shocking" to me.

This will be tried before we go the de-barking rout by far!!! The debarking was only a last resort idea...

Please don't get me wrong, I want to try to solve this properly first.. But having a plan B & a plan C never hurts incase Plan A doesn't work in time. I don't want to be panicking on what options I have last min, so planning a head is a smart route.

[king2005]

King- get those plug ins used for a dog that is nervous.. I know the procedure is the last resort- ...

Plug-ins??

[Freedom]

I had another thought, and I'm glad I got back on the PC after reading all this!

If the cookies and neighborly chat don't work, maybe contact a behaviourist. Then, if things escalate and the police get involved, being able to show you got someone official involved and he / she estimates it will take "this long" to fix, may help. The place where you adopted may be able to recommend someone.

Once upon a time, a new young mother had a baby with colic. The baby cried and screamed and basically drove everyone crazy around her. The neighbors complained to the police, worried that maybe the baby was being hurt. Fortunately, the mom and dad had already taken the baby in to the doctor, had the diagnosis of colic, and were in the process of switching foods. They could say it would take XXX amount of time - just a few days. The police DID contact the pediatrician, just to make sure this was all true.

I was that baby.

Good luck!
Sandra

[king2005]

I had another thought, and I'm glad I got back on the PC after reading all this!

If the cookies and neighborly chat don't work, maybe contact a behaviourist. Then, if things escalate and the police get involved, being able to show you got someone official involved and he / she estimates it will take "this long" to fix, may help. The place where you adopted may be able to recommend someone.

Once upon a time, a new young mother had a baby with colic. The baby cried and screamed and basically drove everyone crazy around her. The neighbors complained to the police, worried that maybe the baby was being hurt. Fortunately, the mom and dad had already taken the baby in to the doctor, had the diagnosis of colic, and were in the process of switching foods. They could say it would take XXX amount of time - just a few days. The police DID contact the pediatrician, just to make sure this was all true.

I was that baby.

Good luck!
Sandra

Thats a wonderful idea!!!!
I'll be doing some phone calls for sure

[luvofallhorses]

please do NOT use a shock collar! they are very inhumane! what about giving him a kong or some kind of indestructable toy?? my hound, Buster barks A LOT.. but I would NEVER use a shock collar on him! He's a hound and that's what they do is bark. that's how dogs express themselves..

[king2005]

please do NOT use a shock collar! they are very inhumane! what about giving him a kong or some kind of indestructable toy?? my hound, Buster barks A LOT.. but I would NEVER use a shock collar on him! He's a hound and that's what they do is bark. that's how dogs express themselves..

He doesn't play with toys, so that wont work.

Its not like hes barking here & there.. this is barking thats lasting for hours & hours & hours on end. We were told he was a non-barker, but thatsar from the truth. Now that hes part of the family, it needs to be corrected before we either loose our home or we're forced to return him to the pound (which isn't an option we plan on doing!!!)... We love our dogs & they deserve a chance. + the collars son't electricute them (there is no pain).. its a shock factor, as in WOW WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT!! THATS UNCOOL, I WON'T BARK AGAIN... now I know it doesn't work on all dogs... There is also several settings(6 I believe on many)... If you think its gonna zap the dog like on TV (Click I think was the movie??) your wrong.

Its still not an option I'm all that willing to do, but its one of those plan A/B/C's I was talking about.

[pitc9]

here's a link to the plug in,
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...m?pcatid=13043

Instead of the shock collar, (where any noise can set it off and can shock the dog for no reason) Why not try a Citronella collar?

http://www.muttmart.com/CitronellaBa...FRTWJAod209TbQ

Do you leave a radio/Tv on when your gone?
I hide treats all around my house when I'm gone to keep my dogs from going crazy.

[luvofallhorses]

well, I see that he's a small dog and small dogs tend to bark A LOT. why not use the cintronella spray collar that is more humane like Angie suggested? I know my mom's dog, Ginger does bark a lot.. take him for more walks and play with him more, take him to dog parks, have play dates or something for him, etc. to prevent him from getting bored. Do all you can to ware him out.

[king2005]

here's a link to the plug in,
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...m?pcatid=13043

Instead of the shock collar, (where any noise can set it off and can shock the dog for no reason) Why not try a Citronella collar?

http://www.muttmart.com/CitronellaBa...FRTWJAod209TbQ

Do you leave a radio/Tv on when your gone?
I hide treats all around my house when I'm gone to keep my dogs from going crazy.

That plug in sounds really neat!!
I'll start leaving the tv on in the livingroom as it faces the dogs couch (ya they have the best couch in the house lol)... Which channel would be best for a dog? the menu channel? as it wont have all kinds of screaming or crazy things...

Treats are a no go... Bear is Hypothyroid & needs so loose a lot of weight, as shes at a health risk (shes nearly double her breeds healthy weight!) + we're trying to get them on a feeding schedual & the treats will stop them from eatting thier kibble (took a week to just get them to start eatting a proper amount of food).

[borzoimom]

I leave the 70's music channel on for my dogs .. ( sorry- showing my age..) They know they hear that channel - go to sleep. I start when I am home and leave the channel on- pretty soon they forget I may not be in the house..

[king2005]

well, I see that he's a small dog and small dogs tend to bark A LOT. why not use the cintronella spray collar that is more humane like Angie suggested? I know my mom's dog, Ginger does bark a lot.. take him for more walks and play with him more, take him to dog parks, have play dates or something for him, etc. to prevent him from getting bored. Do all you can to ware him out.

He goes for 3 walks before lunch time & another 3 after 3pm till we go to bed about midnight or 2am.

Andrew takes them for a walk at 5am.. I take them out at 7am & Chad takes them out at about 11am-noon... then when Andrew gets home at 3pm, he takes them out, then I take them out at 6pm & Chad & I (or our friend Karen) takes them out around midnight.

Mr. Biggles isn't into playing.. he just wants to cuddle & be patted.. so he gets that all the time.

Dog parks are a no go right now, as they are simi-dog agressive. This issue will be delt with starting in the spring, so I don't slip on ice & loose crontol at the dog park. One dog will go at a time & will be muzzled & leashed as a precaution, until they slowly learn that other dogs are a lot of fun Mr. Biggles is the big dog agressor.. Bear only gets agressive when Mr. Biggles tells her too. + at the park they'll learn distraction obidence (that'll be fun lol). & of course I wont go into the park without talking to other owners about socilizing the dogs.. I want the ok from them verbally, so they can keep a closer eye on their dog when near mine & possibly help me with Bear. I think Bear will do really well, as shes not agressive at all when Mr. Biggles isn't around.

[king2005]

I leave the 70's music channel on for my dogs .. ( sorry- showing my age..) They know they hear that channel - go to sleep. I start when I am home and leave the channel on- pretty soon they forget I may not be in the house..

I'll get a cheap radio or I'll make a playlist on my computer for the dogs, as I have a lot of ABBA, Kenny Rogers, etc. kind of music

[Kfamr]

I personally would rehome my dog before mutilating them, I can't imagine anyone even suggesting that. That totally shocked me.

Other than the debarking, you have gotten some excellent advice. Yes, the shock collar is as bad as it sounds. He has seperation anxiety and a shock collar would only make it worse.

[borzoimom]

If you loved the dog- and a medical fix would work- I would.. They love the dog- and rehoming is NOT an option... " just get rid of the dog"- is that the mentality you are endorsing?????