The President's speech

[Karen]

I know enough to know that I don't know what should be done. But at this point, unless I heard something from military commanders on the ground in Iraq, I don't think I'd believe anyone politician's solution.

I know there is no easy answer.

I wish there were.

That said, I don't think throwing a "mere" 20,000 troops at the issue will solve a thing. We've had that many more soldiers over there before. It's been years. The situation on the ground is abysmal in much of the country, and where things are improving (surely there must be some places, right? We have thousands of our people boots on the ground, and have for years now ...) we never get to hear about it.

Mommy, why can't they get along? Can we put everyone in separate corners and give them all a "time out" until they agree to play nice? What do you mean there aren't enough corners?

[Edwina's Secretary]

Bush has only listened to advisors who told him what he wanted to hear. Anyone who disagreed with him, you may remember, was "aiding the terrorist, Unamerican, traitor, coward."

Presidents Lincoln and Roosevelt had members of the loyal opposition in their cabinets. Bush showed the door to anyone who did not agree (such as Powell...) He is PROUD he does not listen to the news or read newspapers. Protesters are restricted to "First Amendment" areas where he does not have to see or hear them. Audiences are vetted to ensure only those who hold his views are allowed.

Bush chose his advisors and he chose to listen to them. There were other opinions out there. But not ones he wanted to hear. So he didn't listen.

There is plenty to go around....but ultimately...he is the leader...he is responsible.

[sparks19]

Yes he is a moron. but he is not the only president to send people overseas to fight. Even when Bill was in office there were ALWAYS people overseas fighting and dying. No matter who is in office our men will continue to be sent to overseas places to fight and die. perhaps not on this scale but 1 or 1000 I don't think it matters.

I don't think the answer now is to pull out. We are in too deep. I fear that will only make things worse.

[Edwina's Secretary]

No matter who is in office our men will continue to be sent to overseas places to fight and die. perhaps not on this scale but 1 or 1000 I don't think it matters.

A. women are being sent as well and...

B. I think it matters very much if you are the one doing the dying....

[sparks19]

A. women are being sent as well and...

B. I think it matters very much if you are the one doing the dying....

I didn't mean just men lol don't be so literal :P

and what I meant is.... 1 death is just as bad as 2 deaths and 10 deaths or 1000 deaths.... it is all devestating and someone is always losing someone they love. death is death and it's always sad to lose anyone.

[lizbud]

I didn't mean just men lol don't be so literal :P

and what I meant is.... 1 death is just as bad as 2 deaths and 10 deaths or 1000 deaths.... it is all devestating and someone is always losing someone they love. death is death and it's always sad to lose anyone.

Yes, you sound all broken up about it too. Geeze.

[sparks19]

Yes, you sound all broken up about it too. Geeze.

yes cause over the computer you can REALLY hear what I sound like or what I am thinking

I myself have never been in the presence of war or horrific death. but my husband has many times and I see the effects it has had on him. of course none of these were in Iraq. this was before that ever started. I also see how his father still struggles with the deaths he witnessed in vietnam. Death is always tragic no matter if it is one person or thousands and how it affects the people still living.

don't act like you know how I am feeling or what I am thinking just by some stupid words on a computer screen.

[BOBS DAD]

I did not vote because like Karen, I must admit that I am not sufficiently knowledgeable enough on the subject to "really" know what the answer is. Is it more troops??? If we are going to send them, then I hope it is. But I really can't say... by saying that I do not have enough information, I do not mean that I haven't been following the news. What I mean is that I do not know the day to day details and the real situation on the ground and in the field - the sort of information that the President and his advisors have access to.

What I do know that if he feels that this is now the answer, then he was very slow on the draw and "really should not have been telling the American people" all the way up to the eve of the past election, that "everything was going well and that we were making great progress". Based on that obvious lie, I am reluctant to trust his assessment and subsequent future plans.

I wish the troops luck and Godspeed.

[RICHARD]

After biting my tongue for a minute..
Yep, it's easy for me and idiots like baba boxer - I again apologize for the state of Cah lee fuh nee ah and for being part of the AHs that have unleashed that biatch on the world- I do not have kids too old or too young to send to their deaths. That should make my opinion as valid as hers.


My vote?

Let's pull out-Militarius Interuptus and let the rest of he world know that we can't finish a job that we started.

Did you notice that most of the propaganda from the terrorists sounds suspiciously like the Left talking points?

Run away.....and give them a chance to mass their forces at the gate.

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All the AHs in congress (or most of them) all wanted more troops to be sent out to Iraq, now they don't want anything to do with the escalation.

And you have "those people" like Baba Boxer and her slimy ilk who only serve to inflame the topic by continuing with their name calling and disrespect for their fellow politicos.

I think womem are more apt to follow the direction of the winds of opinion because a dress and bikini underwear give you a better idea as to which way you need to face....

And if someone has a fire burning downwind you don't get smoke blown up the canyon.

Had we sent TOO many troops in the first place we wouldn't be giving ourselves rectal exams in 2007....now, let's turn our heads and cough...to see if we have the cojones to finish the job-instead of biatching about why it hasn't been completed yet.

Love you all!

[Edwina's Secretary]

know that we can't finish a job that we started.

The problem is....no one seems to know any more what the job is that we started....or how we will know if it is ever finished....