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  1. #16
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    Dr Goodnow....A muzzle? For a while, til she gets it?

    And I hate to even MENTION this, but I have heard it is only a 'weak' shock...the electrical collars that give a slight shock when the dog barks?

    PLEASE don't flame me, anyone, I would NEVER hurt an animal and I don't know much about this type of collar, or if it even exists or if it is legal. Both that and the muzzle I thought of as TEMPORARY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose G
    I just want to clarify that our dog "Benny" a beagle, is now redirecting his aggression at not being able to get at a dog he is barking at and consequently will turn and bite my pant leg or the leash or whatever is next to him at the time. It is very disturbing to watch and I was wondering if anyone out there has ever known a dog like this or know what I could do about this problem?
    Back to the main topic here. I am by no means an expert, but if he was not restrained from the strange dog would he attack it?
    And what about some sort of muzzle or something so he cannot bite anyone or anything? I mean only to use while training him, not as a long term solution. I personally don't like muzzles, but I would think if used correctly it could be a good training device and it will keep everyone involved safe.

    Hee hee, just realized Catty1 and I were responding at the same time. My response was directed at the original poster, but I guess it could go for both.
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    Ok.. Back Off The Topic. My Fil Has Always Had Cockers. Has Had 4 Since I Married My Wife. They Were All Barkers... And Always Barked At Doors When Someone Came To Them. They Tried Puppy Trainers, Behaviorists, Etc... Nothing Helped. Just Resigned To The Behavior.

    Also, They Never Liked The Little Kids Either. Always Had To Watch The Little Ones When They Were Around Them. They Could Snap At Them If They Pulled There Ears Or Such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBS DAD
    Ok.. Back Off The Topic. My Fil Has Always Had Cockers. Has Had 4 Since I Married My Wife. They Were All Barkers... And Always Barked At Doors When Someone Came To Them. They Tried Puppy Trainers, Behaviorists, Etc... Nothing Helped. Just Resigned To The Behavior.

    Also, They Never Liked The Little Kids Either. Always Had To Watch The Little Ones When They Were Around Them. They Could Snap At Them If They Pulled There Ears Or Such.
    Our Cocker was nothing like that. He was not an excessive barker and NEVER attempted to bite ANYONE. I have heard that Cockers can be like that, but we were lucky with our DJ.
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    Thanks Catty and I would never flame you! however the shock collar is out, we have the invisible fencing and the Dobes learned fast with a very mild buzz. Goofy pays no attention to it , muzzling although I have no issue with them on a biter, or vet visits (which she is muzzled for) doesn't stop vocalization just stops them from being able to bite while wearing one.

    Bobs Dad THANK YOU, our rescue cocker years ago had none of these issues, but this girl was a show dog we have had her since 9 weeks so I know it isn't a past family thing, my concern is as she gets older her behaviour becomes more bizarre, the barking though is truly unbelievable. As stated in an way earlier thread, she electrocuted herself with a cord while at day care back in may we nearly lost her, but I swear it fried brain cells as she really hasn't been the same, Jasper is seriously considering the option of debarking and needless to say that is a hot issue in this house. I can see his point though , as it makes work rather difficult. Her other antisocial behaviours can be worked around but I have looked everywhere and cannot find the battery compartment to her barking! I truly do appreciate the advice and I we are working on it, but I am seeing puppy prozac looming, .

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    I always used a faster method. If done properly once you won't need repeats. Attend a training class with your dog and speak to the trainer. The quickest method to resolve this is with a prong collar and when the dog lunges or attacks you lift him off the ground swiftly with a good snap and hold for a few seconds then release and tell the dog to sit. You have to know how to use the prong collar the right way so as not to harm your dog, this is why I advised seeking a good training class
    And by doing that you could choke th dog, or break it's neck. There are much more HUMANE ways to fix the problem.
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    I read through the entire string - i have barker too so i hear your pain! - i'm wondering though, when does your dog stop barking? what triggers that time? does the barking continue non stop until sleep time? does the dog stop once you touch the dog? what is the reaction to you or the person at the door when the dog is touched (petted or just laying a hand on the head to say "i'm here with you"). Will the dog come to a person that is way from the door and thus distracting the dog into another area of the room?

    just ponderings that may help with a solution.....

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    Bugmom, she will bark until she can't anymore. after 9 months of this and serious work with behaviourists and our vet we started her on Monday with a drug therapy. It has only been 2 days, so we will see how that works. She has more issues than Newsweek, but we are doing everything we can to find balance for her in a very unbalanced mind.
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