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    Although we have more jobs than people to fill them in Canada, I know that, in many cases, getting a better education does not guarantee good-paying work.

    In Alberta, wages have not kept pace with housing costs....fully 60% of our "homeless" people are working up to 3 jobs, and have post-secondary ed or apprenticeships...but can't afford rent deposits and the first/last month's rent that landlords often require.

    I think it is GOOD to have, in that it shows you finished something you started...but the cliche that an education guarantees good pay, particularly right away with no experience, is a myth that needs to be quashed. My opinion only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catty1
    I know that, in many cases, getting a better education does not guarantee good-paying work.

    I think it is GOOD to have, in that it shows you finished something you started...but the cliche that an education guarantees good pay, particularly right away with no experience, is a myth that needs to be quashed. My opinion only.
    A college education is, IMO, the best foundation in which to enter the work force. It does not guarantee you a good paying job, anymore than not having one guarantees you a poor paying job. As a betting woman? I would take the risk, and go with a college education any day of the week.

    An education was never thought to guarantee you a good paying job. It was to broaden your horizons, open your mind, show your ability to learn a field, or, put off entering the workforce. It is, in many instances, a bare minimum for advancement into supervisory/management positions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
    Meanwhile...not everyone is college material.
    What does this really mean? That the person can't read? Can't follow a course? Can't sit still for a long lecture? Can't learn new, perhaps boring, things?

    I struggle with accepting this comment. I know we say it. But, if you break it down, I can't follow its conclusory "logic". I think we use it to give passes to people that we don't have faith in. When I hear of personal successes of people, that have gone on to achieve higher education (and, I am not talking strictly a four year program), I can't believe that not everyone is college material.

    I will always think that a college education is the best foundation for those entering the work force. (I am presuming that people entering the work force are not content on making minimum wage forever.)

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    There are many jobs which don't require college, but they pay well.
    Most traditional trades (carpentry, mechanics, machinists etc.) can be learned through on the job training. While tech schools are available to teach trades, they are not always mandatory. Were I hiring someone for a technical skill or a traditional trade, I would take someone with work experience over someone newly out of college or trade school.

    An example of someone who couldn't do well in college? Me. However, I have experience and training (a combination of military training and self-education) which allow me to earn enough to pay the bills for my family and then some.

    BTW, skilled craftsmen are well paid.

  4. #4
    I agree with Cataholic and Pembroke.

    I am trying to go to school to be a vet tech, and then a vet, and trying to help support us on 5.15 an hour just isn't cutting it.

    Marigold,
    Wal Mart emplys people who otherwise would not have a job? Yeah, that's pretty much what ALL employers do.

    I do not shop at Wal Mart having learned things about them. My husband does not agree with the fact that they are taking away potential jobs for people by putting in those automatic checkers (where you just scan and check your groceries yourself). We also do not agre with other things.

    I don't complain about it but I don't shop there. I have found that the quality of things there is not that *great* anyways (regardless of how I feel about them, yes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataholic

    What does this really mean? That the person can't read? Can't follow a course? Can't sit still for a long lecture? Can't learn new, perhaps boring, things?

    I struggle with accepting this comment. I know we say it. But, if you break it down, I can't follow its conclusory "logic". I think we use it to give passes to people that we don't have faith in. When I hear of personal successes of people, that have gone on to achieve higher education (and, I am not talking strictly a four year program), I can't believe that not everyone is college material.
    I think someone who cannot commit to going to school through four years
    while makeing good grades (enough to pass the courses) are not college
    material. You have to commit for the long haul & there are not that many
    people willing to do it.
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