New Puppy!!---(Pictures included)

[elizabethann]

Sorry if some of the replies aren't what you were expecting. But I'm with Glacier on this one.

[T-Ice]

Hello All,

I first want to say that without opinions we would accomplish nothing, so thank you all for your opinions on this topic!
There are many types of people in this world. Some people have too many dogs, even in their opinion. Some have many but are always adding more. Some people have one and would love one more.Some people don't have any and would die to just have one. Some people like like dogs but feel they are too much work. Some people think dogs are creatures of disgust and feel no person should keep them as pets. I know who I am and I think you all know who you are. For the people who have dogs some think of them as creatures of higher power who desrve not to have one human tell them what to do, their owners live at their will, they are alpha superior to all. Some people keep them as couch potatoes. Some people keep them as pets and provide fun and stimulating activities for them do do.Some people keep dogs as working animals only.
Some people make sure each dog has a job to do, believing it not right to own one of these magnificiant animals without having them do what they should be doing naturally. For example I myself (and yes I know I'm going get slammed on this one) don't think it is fair to have a husky as a pet only. Huskies are suppose to have a job to do( in my pinion, of course), a real job. Unfortunatly, and I guess fortunatly also, some huskies are having their working intsicts and desire bred out of them making them easier to keep as house pets. Laid back , Lazy , lovable house pets.
On With Working Sled Dogs: A PT Musher, who also replied to this topic, has many sled dogs. More than half of which are working. This person also stated that she would never find a new home for one of her huskies if it no longer wanted to pull. And this is okay for her. This her her decision and a correct one for her indeed. Meaning therefore she would have just as many huskies as she has now even in none of them pulled. And again this is okay for her. What is not okay is for her to scold other people's opinions, in public (could have PM'd) with the intent to make the other person get definsive, about their decisions on their sled dogs. For some people, myself included, have a hard time keeping a husky if it does not want to pull. Not because I don't love and respect the animal but because I am a musher, With a goal to continue mushing, and in order to mush I need dogs that pull. I could have 100 huskies in my kennel but if none of them enjoy this activity I wouldn't be able to mush. I am a musher, I have sled dogs. I am also a pet owner, I have pet dogs.

I am also one of you, I have an opinion.

[Glacier]

On With Working Sled Dogs: What is not okay is for her to scold other people's opinions, in public (could have PM'd) with the intent to make the other person get definsive, about their decisions on their sled dogs. For some people, myself included, have a hard time keeping a husky if it does not want to pull. Not because I don't love and respect the animal but because I am a musher, With a goal to continue mushing, and in order to mush I need dogs that pull. I could have 100 huskies in my kennel but if none of them enjoy this activity I wouldn't be able to mush. I am a musher, I have sled dogs. I am also a pet owner, I have pet dogs.

I am also one of you, I have an opinion.

But it's ok for you to scold me publicly??? I have discussed this further with sled_dog by PM.

Sled dog rescue is my life's work. This weekend alone I had three phone calls from mushers wanting to get rid of their dogs--one guy his entire team of close to two dozen dogs. It is extremely rare that a full week goes by where I don't get a call from some musher who's got too many dogs, too many puppies, the dog is too old, too young, too unfocused, funny gait, health issues, temperment issues, claims he's sick and has to get out of mushing, or just doesn't want to bother anymore. While I believe there are legitmate reasons for placing a dog, I think they are far more rare than most mushers like to believe. The market for working sled dogs, of any age and any caliber, is extremely limited. The average pet dog owner runs screaming in the other direction as soon as they hear the words "sled dog", even where I live, in the middle of mushing central. Most of the dogs I get calls about end up dead and not always a humane death. Their deaths keep me up at night. So don't expect any sympathy or understanding from me when you dump a dog.

I do hope Yukon gets a great new home where he will be loved and appreciated for the rest of his life.

[Vela]

[QUOTE=T-Ice}On With Working Sled Dogs: A PT Musher, who also replied to this topic, has many sled dogs. More than half of which are working. This person also stated that she would never find a new home for one of her huskies if it no longer wanted to pull. And this is okay for her. This her her decision and a correct one for her indeed. Meaning therefore she would have just as many huskies as she has now even in none of them pulled. And again this is okay for her. What is not okay is for her to scold other people's opinions, in public (could have PM'd) with the intent to make the other person get definsive, about their decisions on their sled dogs. [/QUOTE]


Umm, in one breath you tell HER to take it to PMs and then turn around and scold HER in public? I don't think that is appropriate at all. You are welcome to your opinion, like anyone else, but please don't presume to tell someone else what to do, and then turn around and do exactly the same thing you are accusing them of; and I thank God above for people like Glacier, or there would be a whole lot of sled dogs that's other's don't want anymore languishing at the shelter or put down.

Yukon will, I'm sure, be placed in a loving and caring home. He isn't being dumped at a shelter, but I still feel badly for him that his current home didn't work out for him.

[borzoimom]

Okay- your decission is your decission- To each their own..
However- let me point this out. I had always shown dogs- and Hottie wasnt supposed to be any different. I took him out of the ring at 2 because I was not sure if he got the OCD from the accident as a pup ( throwing his weight into his shoulders and elbows because of the left rear leg) or did it occur because there was a genetic weakness that allowed the condition to be worse than it might have been. Hottie is still here..
Femka- rescue, but also I had planned on obedience with her. While she can do it, its obvious she doesnt like being touched by strangers- especially men.. She is still here..
Galina- came here for training ( I think I was set up) because they had questions about her temperment as being either excessively shy, or simply was just being overly dominated by other alpha bitches at the breeder- the second turned out to be true- and she stayed here. If her temperment had not " come into her own" etc ( even got her therapy dog title a little over a month after arriving here- and shows in the ring with brass.. lol) - Still it was obvious- she would have stayed here as a spayed bitch and companion.
I understand your desire for sledding etc- but the fact is- this is not the first time I have kept dogs that did not work as originally planned. I had two shepherds fail out of police work for not holding a bite long enough. They lived out their lives with me, while I just made more room.
I understand my position was different- after all- the two shepherds were of my breeding- and the only two that failed to be " hard enough" to make it. However- Hottie, Femka, Galina are NOT OF MY breeding- purchased soley for either show, or take for obedience. Should something happen more, they would still live with me..
If you do not have room in your house for a companion inside- that is one thing- but those are my opinions. I only gave up a dog one time- and that was because the dog was a liability - and went to a home without other dogs or children. ( not of my breeding- basically all but given away.I had a 5 year old in the house.)
Yukon sounds like a lover- a softer temperment- placing is not my decission, but I just wanted to throw this out to you in more detail than what I have said previously. I wish him well, and I hope you get what you want. I guess dogs are more in my mind as companions first and foremost- and the rest is just gravy or iceing on the cake..

[*sled_dog*]

Okay, this is really going a bit to far and getting really tiresome. This post may be long, but it could be longer...... This is not *sled_dog*--this is her mother. I don't normally ever come into this website, but she has let me read what has been being sent. This is HER fun web to visit. I cannot believe some of what I see (on this thread). It is pathetic and really ridiculous!!! In fact I feel really stupid that I feel to respond, but I am going to try and set some facts straight. I am not going to use any names but hope to some how reply to them as they have responded.
To start out. It really doesn't matter what anybody thinks or does with their lifestyle. To each their own!! There are no wrongs or rights. Everybody is entitled to their own opinions for everything. That is certainly not going to change the way somebody else might feel. OPINIONS--strong word. That's what gets me in this thread. Sled_dog was not asking anybody for any opinions, but all of a sudden that's what was thrown at her. What happened. Some very understanding ones--thank you all for that, and some negative-bashing ones. Very uncalled for here. If that is what you are going to do. Then why didn't you make your own thread. Because it certainly does not fit into this one, what so ever. Sled_dog was simply sharing her new puppy with you all. In spite of some of you not acknowledging that and jumping on her about Yukon. I will have you know that she is still very excited about having Kodiak, lets not try and spoil that. It is a losing battle. That's what this thread is about!! But at the same time she shared with you that Yukon is going to a new home. Grant it, maybe she should have made it separate by the looks of it---so unbelievably ridiculous what this has become.
For some of you that may think it is your business, after reading some replies. Getting her new puppy has nothing what so ever with getting rid of Yukon. Just so happens to be close to the same time. It could have been a month ago--or a month later, give or take. She has been planning to have Kodiak. And she would like to add a couple more pups to be trained for her team in the next year or two. And it is impossible to replace a year old Husky with a 8 week old puppy! Come on now. She looks at it as adding Kodiak to the team someday, not replacing Yukon. Just so happens that Yukon is not a sled dog. I repeat (Yukon is not a sled dog) she has found out. None of you would know that because none of you have had the honor to work with him or watch him or simply see how he acts. This does not make Yukon a (not good enough dog) he is a very wonderful dog. Thats why she is making sure he goes to a wonderful family. Which will fit the needs of both.

Some relatives as Sled_dog has stated. She has a certain relative that has been teasing her and hinting about wanting that dog! For about the last few months. Sled_dog kept telling him he could not have him. She had no intension on actually getting rid of him--but just keep working with him. But now after that long and seeing that he is not a bred sled dog, she has made the decision to let him go. It was not an easy one to make. She would, before going to bed many nights say, I don't know what to do ma!? And was not a very happy girl. I and her Dad think she made the best decision possible. For herself and for Yukon, (lucky dog!) Whew, now we are all happy. So, as it has been put in replies. She is not dumping Yukon. Sled_dog has, and works with pulling/running huskies. SO WHAT!! Thats one of the things she loves to do. And thats what all of her huskies love to do. You should see them when they see her come walking with the harnesses. It is unreal, how excited they get . They are all, each and every one of them her pets. But they all get that training and running time with her. Where as Yukon wants nothing to do with it. She just hates leaving him behind and not including him. So why not put him somewhere she knows he will be having more -one on one- fun time.
And as far as Kodiak, what if he doesn't pull, and getting rid of him. Sled_dog doesn't think that way when she gets a puppy, just as she did not think about when getting Yukon. She gets her Huskies when still pups, as she loves to train them herself. She is a natural. She has been doing this for almost seven years. This is the first husky that has not worked out. Keep in mind. She did rescue him from a shelter, they had husky mix on his record, and he really did look like a husky when a pup. But you can't always go by that. Some rescue shelters are not always right when finding a dog. Believe me, we have our reasons for saying that. He was brought in because somebody found him abandoned on a road. Sled_dog adopted him, yes, hoping to add him to her team and very excited about it. Only to find out that he is not a sled dog but a fun and loving pet. Sled_dog gave him the chance for life and gave him a very good home, taught him everything he knows, well mannered, to trust people, etc. Now he is ready to make someone else very happy.
Okay, if you read this far, hope you have a little more understanding to why sled_dog is getting rid of Yukon. (Not that it should have really mattered to anyone in the first place! ) It is really no big deal. To sum this all up---Before anyone judges any other person, if the thought is needed--you should first know the circumstances and not jump to conclusions so quickly. Sled_dog is absolutely most far from asking anybody for sympathy. I think after reading through this thread. Well, it just made absolutely no sense at all. Could have been avoided all together. After all, it was mainly for introducing Kodiak. Not to scwabble about Yukon. There is nothing wrong with him, he is very happy. So there is no need to feel sorry for him. Thats up to you. Anyways, hope you enjoyed Kodiaks pictures, I know we do at home here. I am sure there will be more. And thanks again, to you all that understood, after this all got started??

[borzoimom]

As a mother myself, I hear your words. It was just presented to us, yukon would work out, so I got ...
All is taken as a word of advice- and as stated by even myself- to each their own.. I was offering what I did when a dog didnt " make the grade" in what their "assignment was..".. Nothing more- nothing less..

[momto2dogs]

nicely put. I is not an easy thing giving up a pet that does not work out. Good luck and the new pup is adorable.

[cali]

congrats! kodiak is adorable! and as someone who is involved in the working a serious sporting(as in not getting a pet and do sports, but getting the dog FOR sports) I fully understand your situation with Yukon as I do the same with my gang

[Sevaede]

Okay, this is really going a bit to far and getting really tiresome. This post may be long, but it could be longer...... This is not *sled_dog*--this is her mother. I don't normally ever come into this website, but she has let me read what has been being sent. This is HER fun web to visit. I cannot believe some of what I see (on this thread). It is pathetic and really ridiculous!!! In fact I feel really stupid that I feel to respond, but I am going to try and set some facts straight. I am not going to use any names but hope to some how reply to them as they have responded.
To start out. It really doesn't matter what anybody thinks or does with their lifestyle. To each their own!! There are no wrongs or rights. Everybody is entitled to their own opinions for everything. That is certainly not going to change the way somebody else might feel. OPINIONS--strong word. That's what gets me in this thread. Sled_dog was not asking anybody for any opinions, but all of a sudden that's what was thrown at her. What happened. Some very understanding ones--thank you all for that, and some negative-bashing ones. Very uncalled for here. If that is what you are going to do. Then why didn't you make your own thread. Because it certainly does not fit into this one, what so ever. Sled_dog was simply sharing her new puppy with you all. In spite of some of you not acknowledging that and jumping on her about Yukon. I will have you know that she is still very excited about having Kodiak, lets not try and spoil that. It is a losing battle. That's what this thread is about!! But at the same time she shared with you that Yukon is going to a new home. Grant it, maybe she should have made it separate by the looks of it---so unbelievably ridiculous what this has become.
For some of you that may think it is your business, after reading some replies. Getting her new puppy has nothing what so ever with getting rid of Yukon. Just so happens to be close to the same time. It could have been a month ago--or a month later, give or take. She has been planning to have Kodiak. And she would like to add a couple more pups to be trained for her team in the next year or two. And it is impossible to replace a year old Husky with a 8 week old puppy! Come on now. She looks at it as adding Kodiak to the team someday, not replacing Yukon. Just so happens that Yukon is not a sled dog. I repeat (Yukon is not a sled dog) she has found out. None of you would know that because none of you have had the honor to work with him or watch him or simply see how he acts. This does not make Yukon a (not good enough dog) he is a very wonderful dog. Thats why she is making sure he goes to a wonderful family. Which will fit the needs of both.

Some relatives as Sled_dog has stated. She has a certain relative that has been teasing her and hinting about wanting that dog! For about the last few months. Sled_dog kept telling him he could not have him. She had no intension on actually getting rid of him--but just keep working with him. But now after that long and seeing that he is not a bred sled dog, she has made the decision to let him go. It was not an easy one to make. She would, before going to bed many nights say, I don't know what to do ma!? And was not a very happy girl. I and her Dad think she made the best decision possible. For herself and for Yukon, (lucky dog!) Whew, now we are all happy. So, as it has been put in replies. She is not dumping Yukon. Sled_dog has, and works with pulling/running huskies. SO WHAT!! Thats one of the things she loves to do. And thats what all of her huskies love to do. You should see them when they see her come walking with the harnesses. It is unreal, how excited they get . They are all, each and every one of them her pets. But they all get that training and running time with her. Where as Yukon wants nothing to do with it. She just hates leaving him behind and not including him. So why not put him somewhere she knows he will be having more -one on one- fun time.
And as far as Kodiak, what if he doesn't pull, and getting rid of him. Sled_dog doesn't think that way when she gets a puppy, just as she did not think about when getting Yukon. She gets her Huskies when still pups, as she loves to train them herself. She is a natural. She has been doing this for almost seven years. This is the first husky that has not worked out. Keep in mind. She did rescue him from a shelter, they had husky mix on his record, and he really did look like a husky when a pup. But you can't always go by that. Some rescue shelters are not always right when finding a dog. Believe me, we have our reasons for saying that. He was brought in because somebody found him abandoned on a road. Sled_dog adopted him, yes, hoping to add him to her team and very excited about it. Only to find out that he is not a sled dog but a fun and loving pet. Sled_dog gave him the chance for life and gave him a very good home, taught him everything he knows, well mannered, to trust people, etc. Now he is ready to make someone else very happy.
Okay, if you read this far, hope you have a little more understanding to why sled_dog is getting rid of Yukon. (Not that it should have really mattered to anyone in the first place! ) It is really no big deal. To sum this all up---Before anyone judges any other person, if the thought is needed--you should first know the circumstances and not jump to conclusions so quickly. Sled_dog is absolutely most far from asking anybody for sympathy. I think after reading through this thread. Well, it just made absolutely no sense at all. Could have been avoided all together. After all, it was mainly for introducing Kodiak. Not to scwabble about Yukon. There is nothing wrong with him, he is very happy. So there is no need to feel sorry for him. Thats up to you. Anyways, hope you enjoyed Kodiaks pictures, I know we do at home here. I am sure there will be more. And thanks again, to you all that understood, after this all got started??

One, being someone who is experienced with sled dogs, you should know that this is liable to happen. As such, you should be prepared for when it does happen!

This is a pet web site. Our main concern is for the underdog (no pun intended). She has seen posts, seen replies, made posts, and made replies. She KNEW when she made a post and it involved "oh, this dog isn't good enough for my time right now", or anything to that effect or how you want to paint it to look like, what it was going to cause and provoke.

I fail to see how this has gotten out of hand. This is actually pretty docile compared to some of the arguments that have been on here.

[Husky_mom]

I just wanted to add something as wolfsoul and others mentioned before.....

what would be more "right" ? keep Yukon as a "pet dog" and spend all the time with the others sledding, doing agility, school, homework, etc.......and having no more time left for him......

OR, give him a home where he can get the attention needed, not needing to do anything about pulling, running, working, just being a lovable companion.....

not that he is not loved but I think he deserves to have someone that loves him as much and can give him the time......and he wouldn´t be just waiting while the others are having fun or waiting till you can make a break for him........

It´s sad, and as Karen said, sometimes you love a breed but can´t handle some traits........I´ve met and I myself am a person who love certain breeds but just can´t handle some traits as they don´t meet my lifestyle so why make a dog suffer if I can´t provide.........so if someone has the opportunity to get a dog they love (in this case Yukon) without the normal traits and give that dog the opportunity to get a great home that fits him as well......I think its great......

and because of love I thinks sled_dog is doing this, if she didn´t, Yukon could be another dog at a shelter, but instead he will be going to a loving home where he can blossom as a pet/companion dog. It´s sad it didn´t worked out but i think it´s fair FOR YUKON to give him this chance of living happy and not being left out.......

JMO