Loose = Not Tight

[ramanth]

I'm prolly "dating" myself ...

But what the heck is "Leet speak" ???

Leet
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Leet (often written in Leet as 1337) is a sociolect variety used primarily on the Internet, particularly in online games. The term itself is derived from the word Elite, meaning “better than the rest,” and generally has the same meaning when referring to the hacking skills of another person.

Leet can be defined as the perturbation or modification of written text. For example, the term leet itself is often written l33t, or 1337, and many other variations.

Things like 'pwn' instead of 'own' and shortcuts for words such as 'u r' instead of 'you are' are examples of leet speak or chatroom lingo.



My peeve with it critter crazy is just basically trying to understand a post. I'm not going to spend hours trying to disect someone's post when it's a paragraph long with no breaks and no basic sentence structure.

Won't read it, won't reply. Simple as that. So people can type whatever they want, but they can't expect me to read it either.

I do understand that we have several members from other countries, but half the time their use of the English language is better than most American users.

[critter crazy]

Leet
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Leet (often written in Leet as 1337) is a sociolect variety used primarily on the Internet, particularly in online games. The term itself is derived from the word Elite, meaning “better than the rest,” and generally has the same meaning when referring to the hacking skills of another person.

Leet can be defined as the perturbation or modification of written text. For example, the term leet itself is often written l33t, or 1337, and many other variations.

Things like 'pwn' instead of 'own' and shortcuts for words such as 'u r' instead of 'you are' are examples of leet speak or chatroom lingo.



My peeve with it critter crazy is just basically trying to understand a post. I'm not going to spend hours trying to disect someone's post when it's a paragraph long with no breaks and no basic sentence structure.

Won't read it, won't reply. Simple as that. So people can type whatever they want, but they can't expect me to read it either.

I do understand that we have several members from other countries, but half the time their use of the English language is better than most American users.

well that is your choice, but you do not have to make peole feel like crap, just because you dont like the way they spell!! I admit that i can get confused by the way peolple write too, but i am not going to just dismiss there question/problem because there grammar and spelling is wrong!! That is just rude!!

For example: someone is upset cause their dog ran away, are you going to dismiss that thread becaus they spelled something wrong or had a page long paragraph, because they wrote the thread while they were upset???

[ramanth]

For example: someone is upset cause their dog ran away, are you going to dismiss that thread becaus they spelled something wrong or had a page long paragraph, because they wrote the thread while they were upset???

The whole point of this thread is to rant. You don't have to read it.

And yes, if I can't understand the subject of someone's post, I won't reply. It's not that I mean no disrespect if like you say, their dog ran away. But if I can't readily tell that's what the post is about, I won't reply.

[critter crazy]

The whole point of this thread is to rant. You don't have to read it.

And yes, if I can't understand the subject of someone's post, I won't reply. It's not that I mean no disrespect if like you say, their dog ran away. But if I can't readily tell that's what the post is about, I won't reply.

so you are going to dismiss somenes thread becaus ethey were under diress and were emotional.

I understand i dont have to read this post, but i am. and I am enjoying understanding what is imortant to some people.

[ramanth]

so you are going to dismiss somenes thread becaus ethey were under diress and were emotional.

I understand i dont have to read this post, but i am. and I am enjoying understanding what is imortant to some people.

I think dismiss is a bit harsh of a word. There are literally hundreds of threads. Because I only reply to the ones that interest me am I looked at as being rude to the rest? I can't spend all my time on here reading every single post.

I click on a subject title and if I can't understand what the post is about, I move on. It rarely happens though. Many times I can get the gist of an "emotional" post and can simply reply with an "I'm sorry", but can't go into much more detail than that.

[Prairie Purrs]

We write in order to communicate. The reason that each language has a set of rules (spelling and grammar) is to facilitate communication. If every person wrote in his or her own made-up language, communication would be difficult or impossible.

Now, I suppose that if someone is using language as an abstract art form, that person wouldn't care much about the communication angle. But I haven't seen any posts here that appear to be intended as experimental prose poetry.

Karen's right--it's common courtesy to make some effort to use correct spelling and grammar. Nobody expects perfection, and I think people here are more than willing to make substantial allowances for those with language difficulties of any kind (although, as has been noted, members for whom English is a second language generally put us native speakers to shame).

Also, keep in mind that good writing habits aren't something that a person can easily switch on and off. If you don't know how to spell a word when using it online, how are you going to know how to spell it when filling out college or job applications? And if you have someone else correct (or write) your application, what are you going to do when you have to write an essay exam or a business letter?

I work in a writing/editorial position for a company that hires many writers/editors. I'm astounded that many people who apply for those positions submit resumes that contain spelling errors. And no, they don't get hired.

[K9soul]

Well, this won't help in situations such as "loose" vs "lose," but if you use the newest edition of Firefox as a web browser it has an automatic spell check that works when you post on boards or in e-mails, etc. If you misspell a word it will put a little red line under it. If you right click the underlined word it will give you suggestions on the correct spelling, you can highlight the one you want, and voila, it changes the word to the correct spelling. It is very handy . Anyone interested can get it free here, it has a lot of nice features. I can't stand to use explorer anymore after having Firefox for awhile.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

Also, critter crazy, Kimmy is one of the kindest and most compassionate people I have encountered on PT. I don't believe she reads a thread and then deliberately ignores it when a couple words are typed wrong. I believe she does what I do, and that is with my time very limited I stick to topics that jump out at me and posts that are easy to understand. I may have a couple minutes to sit and glance over posts, but not 10-20 minutes to try to decode and decipher a big block paragraph with no punctuation and horrid spelling all the way through. If a post is easy to read and understand I'm more likely to read that one all the way through and perhaps reply. Not because I'm being cold and callous and deliberately ignoring someone because they don't type the way I think they should. If I am sitting around with nothing much to do I may take the time to try to read posts like that, however most the time I simply don't have the time. If people will put a bit more effort into their posts they may get more response than they would otherwise for these reasons. I hope that makes sense.

[ramanth]

You are too kind Jess.

And your post was worded far more eloquently than mine.

[Rachel]

I think the problem with lose being spelled loose so frequently comes from choose being pronounced to rhyme with lose, not loose.

Even though I agree with all those who encourage us to be good spellers and to use correct grammar here as well as everywhere we write, it is also a good idea to be gentle with those of us for whom that doesn't come easily.....or I'll have to get out my red pen.

[RedHedd]

but if you use the newest edition of Firefox as a web browser it has an automatic spell check that works when you post on boards or in e-mails, etc. If you misspell a word it will put a little red line under it. If you right click the underlined word it will give you suggestions on the correct spelling, you can highlight the one you want, and viola, it changes the word to the correct spelling. It is very handy . ... I hope that makes sense.

Made perfect sense. I use MSIE with ieSpell - a free spell checker available at iespell.com. I write legal documents for a living and am constantly proofreading legal documents that others write. I was just talking to an attorney friend last night who was considering going into partnership with another attorney and was asking me how to handle turning him down politely because his work-product was so poorly written. A well-seasoned attorney should know correct spelling, grammar and formatting of legal documents, but this guy didn't.

So what we learn here can and does carry over into our "real" lives.

[Twisterdog]

We write in order to communicate. The reason that each language has a set of rules (spelling and grammar) is to facilitate communication. If every person wrote in his or her own made-up language, communication would be difficult or impossible.

Now, I suppose that if someone is using language as an abstract art form, that person wouldn't care much about the communication angle. But I haven't seen any posts here that appear to be intended as experimental prose poetry.

Karen's right--it's common courtesy to make some effort to use correct spelling and grammar. Nobody expects perfection, and I think people here are more than willing to make substantial allowances for those with language difficulties of any kind (although, as has been noted, members for whom English is a second language generally put us native speakers to shame).

Also, keep in mind that good writing habits aren't something that a person can easily switch on and off. If you don't know how to spell a word when using it online, how are you going to know how to spell it when filling out college or job applications? And if you have someone else correct (or write) your application, what are you going to do when you have to write an essay exam or a business letter?

I work in a writing/editorial position for a company that hires many writers/editors. I'm astounded that many people who apply for those positions submit resumes that contain spelling errors. And no, they don't get hired.

Agreed, 100%!

[momoffuzzyfaces]

U should all be gratefull u don't live in the time before there were grammer rules. The time when any buddy could spell any word any way thay wanted 2!

With my blood pressure way out of control and being in constant pain from arthritis and fibromyalgia, I don't always take the time to worry about little things like grammer or spelling. I worry about being able to stand up and move around. Sorry to those I offend!

[Karen]

well that is your choice, but you do not have to make peole feel like crap, just because you dont like the way they spell!! I admit that i can get confused by the way peolple write too, but i am not going to just dismiss there question/problem because there grammar and spelling is wrong!! That is just rude!!

For example: someone is upset cause their dog ran away, are you going to dismiss that thread becaus they spelled something wrong or had a page long paragraph, because they wrote the thread while they were upset???

No, we would not denigrate someone for making mistakes when upset, but asking you, in the course of your normal posts, to pay attention to things like punctuation and grammar is not done in a spirit of meanness. I ask that people at least make some effort in spelling and grammar out of common courtesy for people trying to read and understand their posts.

The issue of hugely long paragraphs is legitimate - it actually makes it physically painful for people to read, so they will often give up partway through. The eye needs visual cues - and white space - to help it process information. I'm not making this up, it's a scientifically proven fact.

[critter crazy]

No, we would not denigrate someone for making mistakes when upset, but asking you, in the course of your normal posts, to pay attention to things like punctuation and grammar is not done in a spirit of meanness. I ask that people at least make some effort in spelling and grammar out of common sourtesty for people trying to read and understand their posts.

The issue of hugelyly long paragraphs is legitimate - it actually makes it physically painful for people to read, so they will often give up partway through. The eye needs visual cues - and white space - to help it process information. I'm not making this up, it's a scientifically proven fact.

Oh yes Karen I understand, and yes it bothers me too. But some people cant help it! Like for instance my mother is Dyslexic, and i am not about to comment about how she spells or wtites, all i am saying is that it does hurt some peoples feelings.

I do my best to spell correctly and such, but sometimes you just dont notice. and many times i have to go back and edit my post.

[Randi]

I figure I might as well make an effort to write correct(ly), so that other people can understand what I mean - AND, equally important, if I get a job where I have to write in English, I'll probably keep the job longer.