White Shepherds

[NicoleLJ]

Wolfsoul just so you know Sheena is a PSD Psychiatric Service Dog. She is not a threapy dog though she could do the job with ease. Just wanted to clear that up.
Nicole

[jackfrost]

Wolfsoul just so you know Sheena is a PSD Psychiatric Service Dog. She is not a threapy dog though she could do the job with ease. Just wanted to clear that up.
Nicole

Then PROVE IT, more words no substance, its a common thing with you isn't it? Prove your breeding stock. Talk is cheap and that's all you have. Good luck. You can say you've answered and given proof over and over again, apparently you believe yourself. Meanwhile the questions still get ignored and skirted with pity parties you like to throw for yourself. I"m still waiting for those links. How come I have a feeling i'll just get more words and baseless claims? Where's the emoticon for head banging on desk or wall

[mike001]

Wolfsoul you are still in the dark re aservice dog and a therapy dog.Go to Canines with a Cause. This is a program that is also in Ottawa, called CWAC. It might shed some light on what we are discussing. It describes the steps one has to take for obtaining a service dog. The matching, training, cost, certification etc
You might understand better what a service dog is. As for psd's they are not recognized in Canada unless assessed by a training team and the owner has medical references to uphold the need for one. Only a physician or psychiatrist is allowed to sign the necessary documents. As for the US I can't speak for their laws. But you will note in the CWAC that it states that an owner's pet dog is not used to train as a service dog. It also states that the dogs need at least basic obedience.
Nice to say, oh, my dog could do that real easy....but if you've never done it in the ring, then you really don't know if your dog has the courage to work under stressful conditions.
Did you bother to read Fred Lanting's sites? It doesn't sound like youdid or you would know what we are talking about when we say "GENETICS", and it's not old things from another era.

[NicoleLJ]

I love Canines with a Cause. Great CHARITY. There are many training facilites for servcie dogs in Canada. There is only one type of service dog that is recognized and protected throughout Canada. That is dogs for the blind. Our laws here are unfortunately way behind the times. But many of us, including myself are trying to change that. There is no law that all service dogs must be registered. Simply because there is no governing body that covers all service dogs in canada. I hope this helps to clear up misconceptions.




The Canadian Provinces


The Canadian Provinces independently have their own laws that define the rights of disabled persons. Generally, there have been two approaches. Some provinces have a Blind Persons’ Rights Act. These define, fairly specifically, where the disabled person with a dog may go, important considerations in housing, what happens if these rights are violated, and any penalties associated with them. Trainers rights or requirements, licenses or fees, identification requirements, and injury to the dog may also be included. In this respect, some provinces have statutes that are quite similar to those found in the United States. The provinces that have taken this approach include Alberta, British Columbia, Labrador, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, Ontario, and Quèbec. While this type of law was originally written to accommodate blind persons, a number of the provinces have broadened their scope through amendments that extend these rights to deaf or hearing impaired and disabled persons.

Another approach is seen in the Human Rights Acts. The Human Rights approach covers a broader issue of discrimination in a much wider section of society. For example, Manitoba includes in its law concern for discrimination in these categories:

(a) ancestry, including colour and perceived race;
(b) nationality or national origin;
(c) ethnic background or origin;
(d) religion or creed, or religious belief, religious association or religious activity;
(e) age;
(f) sex, including pregnancy, the possibility of pregnancy, or circumstances related to pregnancy;
(g) gender-determined characteristics or circumstances other than those included in clause (f);
(h) sexual orientation;
(i) marital or family status;
(j) source of income;
(k) political belief, political association or political activity;
(l) physical or mental disability or related characteristics or circumstances, including reliance on a dog guide or other animal assistant, a wheelchair, or any other remedial appliance or device.

Frequently, in the provinces that rely primarily on this approach, the word “dog” appears only in the definition section of the law. All provinces have a Human Rights Act, but the provinces using this approach to the exclusion of more specific laws for disabled persons, include Manitoba, New Brunswick, Northwest Territories, Prince Edward Island, Saskatchewan, and Yukon.


So as you can see until Canada has a unified standard like the ADA things will remain up to the provinces to decide. It has taken a long time for mobility assisant dogs to be accepted. Autism support dogs are still not accepted and do not share all teh same rigths as a guide dog. Many of us are trying to change this. Canada needs to continue to expaned in its learnign and accepting of all service dogs. Untill then only Guide dog users have complete and full access and rights across Canada.

Here are some great links to other facilities that train service dogs. All are charities. None of them control the whether a service dog is a service dog. Each is different in it's criteria. But agian there is no law in Canada saying a service dog has to be a facility trained dog. Service dogs can be Owner trained.

National Service Dog Inc: http://www.nsd.on.ca/
Pacific Assistance Dogs http://www.padsdogs.org/
MIRA: http://www.mira.ca/
Western Guide and Assistance Dog Society: http://www.guidedog.ca/who_we_are.html
Lions Foundation of Canada Dogguides: http://www.dogguides.com/doghome.htm
Nicole