Quote Originally Posted by borzoimom
And I will tell you something else mike'd-
HAVE YOU ever met Fred Lantings?? I HAVE! Have you ever worked with Fred Lantings?? I HAVE!! And he would be horrified at how you are twisting his words- you obviously have never worked with him, or even possible totally read/NOR UNDERSTOOD anything by him.. He states you breed for traits desired, but understanding the total working dog is capable of all sorts of work.

You are very fortunate to have met Fred Lanting in person Borzoid, I have friends who know him personnally and we all understand his writtings and his work with Shepherds. What I find truly amazing is that you have trained so many shepherds and understand them so well, why is it that you would abandon all this for a sporting breed?
Have you ever known Fred Lanting to breed a WGSD? I didn't think so. I understand his views on genetics quite well, but it appears Nicole has never read anything he wrote from the things she posts.We are only pointing out the "here and now" world, not the way it was 50 yrs ago.



Case in point- I had several litters that were out of show parents- top in the show world- litter of 9- 7 ( SEVEN) WERE natural Sch. dogs- one was totally show- and one was a pet by desire of the owner- want more examples???? I had another litter- supposed to be all Sch? police work dogs- everyone show-... Top obedience titles- but all show-... You fail to understand the total make up of the Shepherd, and seriously misunderstand the ability of a shepherd- farm dog, or police, guide dog or therapy, ... The shepherd fits it- and your narrow mindedness is why people do not allow the natural traits the dog of a all well rounded dog.. Maybe your dogs are shy at back firing cars- MINE NEVER WERE..
Case in point......If I had a GSD who failed to protect the house when someone tried to break in, I would certainly be disappointed. An intelligent dog such as the GSD who doesn't defend loved ones is not worth much in my opinion. I have never owned a shy shepherd in my life and never would. All my dogs were well socialized and friendly. If any of my dogs had shown any sign of aggression, they would not have remained in my home. We tested all our dogs for gunshots,part of our training , so a car backfiring was no big deal. I never had a Shepherd bite, show teeth, raise hackles or hide behind me etc.