St John's ambulance is one of the MANY therapy groups, and it is not found in many many places. If you contact other therapy groups you will find that the majority of them do not need a CGN or CGC, but rather just to pass their own screening process. Pets and People is the group my dog's mother went through and she went on to be a therapy dog at 18 months old with only her Canadian Championship.Originally Posted by mike001
I completely agree Nicole -- I know and know of so many dogs who are working or show titled that should not be bred.
I know someone who breeds tollers and she got all of her dogs' Chs by pinning them against eachother in the ring, thus giving them points. Easy to do when you have an uncommon breed in the ring -- I could do it with my Belgians if I wanted to. One time the judge said "none of these dogs deserve ribbons," which is almost NEVER done, and she excused them all. Another time, in the group ring, the judge asked "why are there two goldens in the ring?" proving just what kind of show quality her dogs were.
I know a schutzhund/drug and bom detection./french ring trainer in Alberta. His multi titled schutzhund dog tried to eat my dog and then came after me. My co-breeder was in the schutzhund club for years and witnessed things that almost turned her off the sport. You get the dogs that think of it as a fun game, and then you get the dogs that are serious about it. She'd seen people be attacked more than once unprovocatively by these dogs, who were probably titled. I know a dog with her TT and CGC who was tested for French ring and tested well -- she took after a man who was wearing a puffy jacket in the winter time and latched on to his arm. I knew a rotti lab mix with his CGN who attacked and almost killed my friend -- literally almost ripped her head off, she was lucky most of her throat was intact enough that she didn't bleed to death.
Goes to show you that a title does not prove conformation, working ability, temperament, and especially health.
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