I'm trying the stethascope thing for certain.. I have been bringing him in there every once in awhile since i adopted to know them and to step on the scale (he has a weight problem!) thats one of the reasons this was sooo surprising was that he knew everyone already.But i will continue to bring him in there and work with him and get him over this. next month we start training - we were going to this month but when it rains it pours and my life just couldn't handle one more piece of pie so we continue doing the training at home...i just do better with an instructor! he is such a big baby.... now he doesn't want his ear medicine. either- which i don't blame him but too bad he's gotta have it! : )

thanks so much for the advice. i wish i knew what happened to this poor baby before had and yet i'm probably glad i don't know!