World's first cloned cat has kittens

[Vela]

If your parent or your child or your spouse or you had terminal cancer or another fatal disease, and the only hope of survival was a cloned liver or heart or bladder, would you not want it to be available?

That depends, would the organ be cloned inside a clone of that ill person, or cloned in and of itself without life being created to sustain it? IF said part came from a clone of a person, such as a whole cloned person, then my answer is no, I wouldn't want it, because I don't beleive we have the right to create a whole life and snuff it out for our own selfish needs. IF the parts could be cloned individually, without creating a whole other life to sustain it, then I wouldn't have an issue with using it.

[Twisterdog]

That depends, would the organ be cloned inside a clone of that ill person, or cloned in and of itself without life being created to sustain it? IF said part came from a clone of a person, such as a whole cloned person, then my answer is no, I wouldn't want it, because I don't beleive we have the right to create a whole life and snuff it out for our own selfish needs. IF the parts could be cloned individually, without creating a whole other life to sustain it, then I wouldn't have an issue with using it.

I do not think that would EVER happen ... cloning a person then killing him/her to harvest an organ. I do not think that is something we will EVER have to worry about.

[wombat2u2004]

Makes one think that a movie like "Blade Runner" could end up a true story !!!!

[Luvin Labs]

Makes one think that a movie like "Blade Runner" could end up a true story !!!!

Or the newer similar version "The Island"...

[Vela]

I do not think that would EVER happen ... cloning a person then killing him/her to harvest an organ. I do not think that is something we will EVER have to worry about.

Never say never. You just never know. I would also like to think that wouldn't happen, but I'm not going to go so far as to say it isn't possible people decide to do it. There have been many people throughout history who would very well do such as thing as that, so I don't have any trouble thiking there woulnd't be others out there that would/could/will do it too. Hopefully not, but I would have to say if someone did it wouldn't surprise me in the least. People kill others every day with abortions, which happens to be perfectly legal, with partial birth abortions performed after 20 weeks (5+ months pregnant), where they birth everything but the head, so they can't say it's "alive", then stab scissors into the baby's brain to kill it and suck out it's brain with a suction catheter. Yes it's morbid and disgusting, but lots of people seem just fine with doing that. Four more inches of birth for that baby and it would be consdiered murder in any state...some of those babies they do it to are 6 months and OLDER in the womb, and could and most often WOULD live outside the womb. There are so many things wrong with that that it is easily possible for me to see them doing such to harvest organs. If people are capable of doing partial birth abortions, because someone was irresponsible and now doesn't want a baby, then they are capable of almost anything.

[Sevaede]

If people are capable of doing partial birth abortions, because someone was irresponsible and now doesn't want a baby, then they are capable of almost anything.

Rape victims are irresponsible? What about all the children born into abusive homes? Not trying to argue, just curious!

[Lady's Human]

Somehow I think Vela was referring to abortions where rape or incest aren't factors. (Which are the vast majority of abortions)

[Sevaede]

Somehow I think Vela was referring to abortions where rape or incest aren't factors. (Which are the vast majority of abortions)

Okay, got it!

[Vela]

Rape victims are irresponsible? What about all the children born into abusive homes? Not trying to argue, just curious!

Lady's Human is right, and as far as rape and incest goes, there is no reason whatsoever they couldn't have an abortion performed much earlier on in the pregnancy, as could ANYONE, to prevent unwanted children or products of incest and rape. This wasn't an argument about abortion in the first place though....I was merely pointing out that if people are capable of doing THAT, or even many of the inhumane things they did during the holocaust or other horrible things people are capable of, why would anyone think that people are not capable of cloning a human for parts? I'm not saying they will, or have, or ever will, I just do not see it as outside the realm of possibility, like some do.

[Lady's Human]

I would reccomend Niven's stories about Gil the ARM Hamilton and the organ banks.

It's an example of how far Niven thinks humanity could go to extend life.

[Vela]

That sounds interesting, I will check that out.

[Sevaede]

Lady's Human is right, and as far as rape and incest goes, there is no reason whatsoever they couldn't have an abortion performed much earlier on in the pregnancy, as could ANYONE, to prevent unwanted children or products of incest and rape. This wasn't an argument about abortion in the first place though....I was merely pointing out that if people are capable of doing THAT, or even many of the inhumane things they did during the holocaust or other horrible things people are capable of, why would anyone think that people are not capable of cloning a human for parts? I'm not saying they will, or have, or ever will, I just do not see it as outside the realm of possibility, like some do.

I understand what you mean! I agree.

[cuterat]

I believe that they are doing it with good intentions. I mean, I heard they are hoping to clone cows/pigs/ets. instead of breeding them to slaughter for meat.

But they SHOULD use it to bring animals back from the point of extinction, tigers, anyone?

Once they work out the 6 year old gene thing.