New Baby!!!!

**junescrater716** · 12-17-2006, 07:44 PM

LoL the name is up to my mom but it will most likely be Moe. We've been wanting a Moe since we had Curly. lol I will save up for a disposable camera but first I have to pay a fine at the library. Ooops overdue Cds. lol

**borzoimom** · 12-17-2006, 07:45 PM

do you have a cell phone that takes pictures- or a member of the family have one that you could email the pictures to your computer then load??? now there is an idea..

**junescrater716** · 12-17-2006, 07:46 PM

Maybe I can ask my sis if I can take a couple pics with her digital camera when we get him but I have a better chance with my dad's camera phone. lol

**borzoimom** · 12-17-2006, 07:53 PM

That'll work- boy what a face!!! I would have a 100 photos in the first 24 hours... lol..

**junescrater716** · 12-17-2006, 07:58 PM

lol!!! Yes "Moe" (thats what I'll call him for now) Is quite a character. The breeder said he was very friendly and playful and fiesty!!

**buttercup132** · 12-17-2006, 08:00 PM

We want a pug we found one in the paper, I went online, I chose the pug my dad liked him too so we bought him. End of story. Stop ragging on me saying that I'm a bad person to buy from a breeder. I'm not. Even if it was a BYB I'd be saving the pug from there. Think of it that way.

Everyone tells me that I can't buy from pet stores, local breeders, BYBs, etc. Where are we supposed to get one then? We aren't going to go out and buy a 2,000 dollar show quality pug just so we can have him as a loyal, loving, pet, (Or child

) We also arent't going to go out and adopt a sick, untrained, and old dog. Believe me I'd love to take one in but I couldn't deal with losing an adopted dog a few years later.

I'm not replying on here to bash you I just want to say something about your comment about you saving the puppy IF they were BYB's. I know he's not from a pet store but I wrote this on another thread os I'm just going to copy and paste it.

A puppy sitting in the store looking all sad. But think of where it came from. Most come from puppymills. Where the mother is bred and bred and bre, laying in her own feces, fighting other dogs for food, maybe not even getting food at all, dirty or no water, never getting human attention , never going to the vet, getting beaten.having absesses wich are common because of their living conditions having the pain from those absesses sometimes not being able to lay down from pain. The puppy gets taken away from the mom early so by the time he gets to the pet store he is old enough to be sold. On the way to the store one of it's brothers or sisters die from the living conditions and not being cared for. The little puppy it'self is sick and weak ,nervous and scared. By buying that puppy you are making it so that the mom is bred again right after having those puppies.Your making it so that she has to go through more pain and suffering. If you didnt buy the puppy it would stay in the store. The dogs would stop being bred because the other puppies aren't selling.
The mom would either be put of of her misery or taken to a shelter.
There would be no more puppies dying in the cold no more dogs suffering. So to make a change that big it all gose back to not buying that puppy and supporting the pet store. Yes the puppies need homes to but some will have to suffer in order to save the rest.

Not all dogs from the shelter are old,sick,and untrained. There are programs that alot of shelters are getting into where they send to dogs to the jail and they have imates train the dog basic commands to help their chances of being a dopted better. There is even a show on it called Cell Dogs.

Obviously it would be a little hard to find your specific requirments you want in a shelter I understand that. But I just wanted to clarify that not all and majority dogs aren't what you described in shelters.

Most people on PT have dogs they got from a shelter and they aren't sick, they live just as long and alot of them are very obidient.

Congrads on your new puppy. Is the puppy on the site the one your getting?

**#1Wolflover** · 12-17-2006, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by buttercup132

I'm not replying on here to bash you I just want to say something about your comment about you saving the puppy IF they were BYB's. I know he's not from a pet store but I wrote this on another thread os I'm just going to copy and paste it.

A puppy sitting in the store looking all sad. But think of where it came from. Most come from puppymills. Where the mother is bred and bred and bre, laying in her own feces, fighting other dogs for food, maybe not even getting food at all, dirty or no water, never getting human attention , never going to the vet, getting beaten.having absesses wich are common because of their living conditions having the pain from those absesses sometimes not being able to lay down from pain. The puppy gets taken away from the mom early so by the time he gets to the pet store he is old enough to be sold. On the way to the store one of it's brothers or sisters die from the living conditions and not being cared for. The little puppy it'self is sick and weak ,nervous and scared. By buying that puppy you are making it so that the mom is bred again right after having those puppies.Your making it so that she has to go through more pain and suffering. If you didnt buy the puppy it would stay in the store. The dogs would stop being bred because the other puppies aren't selling.
The mom would either be put of of her misery or taken to a shelter.
There would be no more puppies dying in the cold no more dogs suffering. So to make a change that big it all gose back to not buying that puppy and supporting the pet store. Yes the puppies need homes to but some will have to suffer in order to save the rest.

Not all dogs from the shelter are old,sick,and untrained. There are programs that alot of shelters are getting into where they send to dogs to the jail and they have imates train the dog basic commands to help their chances of being a dopted better. There is even a show on it called Cell Dogs.

Obviously it would be a little hard to find your specific requirments you want in a shelter I understand that. But I just wanted to clarify that not all and majority dogs aren't what you described in shelters.

Most people on PT have dogs they got from a shelter and they aren't sick, they live just as long and alot of them are very obidient.

Congrads on your new puppy. Is the puppy on the site the one your getting?

All my dogs are from sheltors and I have 5 happy healthy dogs! True not all dogs from sheltors are sick, in fact I've never met one. But a petstore/puppymil are totally different from a breeder! And this person didn't buy the puppy from a puppymil they bought it from a person who breed there dogs everyonce in while! As for puppymil pups thats different, one of my dogs supposedly ran away from a puppymil (she was extremely skinny and oveously had puppies) I feel sorry for thoses dogs and hope that one day it can be stopped!

**buttercup132** · 12-17-2006, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by #1Wolflover

All my dogs are from sheltors and I have 5 happy healthy dogs! True not all dogs from sheltors are sick, in fact I've never met one. But a petstore/puppymil are totally different from a breeder! And this person didn't buy the puppy from a puppymil they bought it from a person who breed there dogs everyonce in while! As for puppymil pups thats different, one of my dogs supposedly ran away from a puppymil (she was extremely skinny and oveously had puppies) I feel sorry for thoses dogs and hope that one day it can be stopped!

I know BYB's aren't the same as puppymills. But the pet store puppies come from puppymills (MOST of them).

I know she isn't getting her pup from any of those places but I wanted to cear up why it is bad to get a puppy from a pet store, byb or puppymill.

That's good that you rescued all those dogs.

**borzoimom** · 12-17-2006, 08:21 PM

Please people- If you know she isnt getting a puppy from these places, then answer for me- or better yet- do not- WHAT does this have to do with Junes new puppy????? Somebody start a new thread on this subject of whatever- and keep junes puppy OUT OF it..

**#1Wolflover** · 12-17-2006, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by buttercup132

I know BYB's aren't the same as puppymills. But the pet store puppies come from puppymills (MOST of them).

I know she isn't getting her pup from any of those places but I wanted to cear up why it is bad to get a puppy from a pet store, byb or puppymill.

That's good that you rescued all those dogs.

I refuse to buy pups from puppymills, cute as they maybe they benefit the puppymills, and I couldn't think staright knowing I helped a puppymill.