New Baby!!!!

[junescrater716]

Neither have I!!! It's really cute though. He's fawn/black so that might be the result.

[bckrazy]

I hate to rain on parades, but I would never buy from that breeder, IMO. :[

Only a 1 year guarentee against genetic problems. You cannot even OFA until 2 years old.

Parents have no titles or health certifications. They are two pet Pugs, with unknown genetic health, who are being bred for money or fun or whatever.

This looks like a classic BYB to me, and I could neverever say I support that, ever. I feel that there's no reason these people should be breeding. There are already tons of Pugs in rescue as it is, it's sad that this breed is being ruined.

[junescrater716]

The parents do have certificates. They have been breeding pugs for several years and no other pug breeder has the one year warrenty. Some don't even have one! lol

[bckrazy]

If they're the only breeder you found with a one-year guarantee, I think you're looking in the wrong places.

What "certificates" do the parents have? There is no mention of that at all.

[cali]

I have to agree wuth bckrazy this looks like a BYB to me, there is somthing about the parents that just doesnt look right, I have seen a lot of proper pugs and these guys just look "off" to me, the breeder does not strike me as a good one at all

[Giselle]

Agreed with the rest. Abort the sale now and go save a pug from a shelter. Pugs are a fairly popular breed and there has got to be Pug rescues in Oregon. I have family in OR so I could definitely help you find one. You can PM me

Just off hand, here's a PDCA endorsed rescue in WA:
http://www.seattlepugs.com/

Also, AKC "inspected" and registered means nothing. As far as I know, AKC doesn't inspect breeders unless there is a reason (i.e. alleged claims of abuse, I think). They're just a registry. They're just there to ensure that purebreeds stay pure (and sometimes they can't even do that). They can't ensure quality. In a nutshell, "certificates" from the AKC don't mean much.

[junescrater716]

We don't really care if it's a "proper pug" or not. If the pug is happy, healthy and safe thats all that matters. If the pug isn't show quality we don't care. We love them just the same. We got curly at the pet store without any info on his parents and we love him to death but he isn't show quality.

[GreyhoundGirl]

Sorry if this comes across as being rude, but why do you want one from a breeder? Like, no offence, but why get one from a breeder that is mis-marked anyways? Mis-marked dogs can't do confrimation, anyways. I'm excited for you, but I really don't understand why you would want one from a breeder.

You could get one from the SPCA that is cheaper and just as good, and *might* even be healthier.

I'm excited for you, (but more excited for puppy pics )

[junescrater716]

Because he's adorable, cheap, spunky, and we don't care about whether or not we can show them. He's getting neutered anyways so he couldn't show even then.

[TFTpwnsYou]

Well, she won't be showing the dog so a mismark is no big thing. And maybe they wanted to go to a breeder because they wanted a puppy, they were looking for a specific color, and they want to be able to meet the parents. I went to breeders for certain reasons myself.

[junescrater716]

What TFT said. lol We will be meeting the breeder sometime next week. Still my mom might be coming home AFTER the puppy arrives so we'll have a big red bow around his neck for her!!!

[dogzr#1]

Don't take this the wrong way, I am truly excited for you, but I don't think this breeder is the best out there. If you want just a 'pet' pug, I suggest going to a nearby rescue or shelter and adopt a pug in need of a home. They are 'cheap' and are the ones that really need the homes. Just a thought. But yeah, the breeders dont look too 'good', for lack of better words. They dont do many testings and pugs are prone to many health problems. Just MHO...

[junescrater716]

Pugs are REALLY hard to find in shelters especially black ones. Most rescued pugs are old, sick, and not trained. Believe me we looked.

Besides my dad already sent the deposit check. lol

[Pam]

If you want just a 'pet' pug, I suggest going to a nearby rescue or shelter and adopt a pug in need of a home. They are 'cheap' and are the ones that really need the homes.

Dogzr#1, this puppy has already been born and also needs a home. Why do you say a pug from a shelter REALLY needs a home. I fail to see the difference.

I just don't understand how some of you can be so harsh to someone who comes on here to post about how excited she is. A simple definition of a BYB would be sufficient and then just let it go. She obviously loves this little dog so why do you continue to beat up on her? She will be the one raising this little one.

My first dog came from a pet shop and my second dog came from a BYB. I didn't know anything about how to select a proper breeder back then, but I can tell you these dogs were smart, healthy and got me hooked on this breed. They represented the breed well, and both lived into their teens, the second one making it to 17.

June I am thrilled for you. I haven't read through the rest of these posts because I just couldn't stand the way people were taking the air out of your balloon. I look forward to meeting your new puppy. I have a secret closet desire to own a pug as many people on this board know.

[borzoimom]

What TFT said. lol We will be meeting the breeder sometime next week. Still my mom might be coming home AFTER the puppy arrives so we'll have a big red bow around his neck for her!!!

AWW- that is sweet!