Scholarship For Whites Only

[Cataholic]

I thought this comment was a bit over the top, sorry. Women still, to this day, make something like 23% less than men in this country. Minority groups still experience racism in everyday life, and while things are better, they are not nearly perfect.

I don't agree with any kind of racism- but when a group has experienced institutionalized racism for sooooo long, I can understand where specific scholarships come from. That being said, I would prefer to see scholarships given to students based on a mixture of academics and finances.

Well said, PC. I think the majority of people that don't 'see' racism, sexism, etc., are simply not paying attention. And, seems largely white, as well!

[king2005]

I'm white & I'm the Minority here in this city, & I see racism all the time. its mostly towards whites too. Most places to work here are not held by whites, as the owners aren't white, so they mostly stick to their own race. Just go to a Timmies & count the white people. Its rare to see us there. Even in this huge company I work for, there is few whites. More Indians & Koreans then anything.

Honestly I just ignore it all & don't care. I was just lucky that I had plenty of manager work exp. back in Ottawa & this company saw that & took me on, but I had to work my butt off to excell over others, which ment overtime, little sleep & coming into work ill & hungry... Andrew isn't so lucky, he has less work exp. as he went to university & he can't even get a job at a fast food joint. hes been jobless for over a month. & whats sad is that the turn over rate at the places hes applying to are insane, cause they keep picking race over skills & personality (as in a good work ethic, mind set kind of thing).

Being whitie & walking through the park is scary as heck! The only people I've read being randomly attacked here are white. 2 young white ladies were shot with pellet guns 11+ times in the park at 11am (sunny day).

When I worked for this company about a year ago, they shuned me because I was the only whitie & couldn't pronounce 1/2 their clients names properly. I heard the whitie jokes too..

So being white doesn't make me ontop. I fully understand racism & being hated for who I am (gone through that all my life, including being beaten & picked on).. & I still dissagree with this race scholarship BS... It should be given to the "people" who earn it with skils, not race!

[Lady's Human]

Okay, let's all join in the chorus.........


White Male Residents of the United States are the source of all evil in the world.



Just as an example.............

Let's take the PO I work at as a microcosm.......

There are males and females in all jobs. Clerks, mailhandlers, techs, etc.

On average, the Males earn about 15-20% more than most (not all) of the females. How is that so, when we're a union shop, everyone's on the same wage scale, and equal opportunity is brutally enforced?

Very simply, out of all the female clerks, there are Three on the OT list. Out of all the mailhandlers, there are two females on the OT list. Out of all the maintenance personnel, there is one female on the OT list.

I would be amused to see the results of a study comparing annual compensation in relation to hours worked for males and females (By payroll data, not census data), but I can't find one.

[Pembroke_Corgi]

Okay, let's all join in the chorus.........


White Male Residents of the United States are the source of all evil in the world.



Just as an example.............

Let's take the PO I work at as a microcosm.......

There are males and females in all jobs. Clerks, mailhandlers, techs, etc.

On average, the Males earn about 15-20% more than most (not all) of the females. How is that so, when we're a union shop, everyone's on the same wage scale, and equal opportunity is brutally enforced?

Very simply, out of all the female clerks, there are Three on the OT list. Out of all the mailhandlers, there are two females on the OT list. Out of all the maintenance personnel, there is one female on the OT list.

I would be amused to see the results of a study comparing annual compensation in relation to hours worked for males and females (By payroll data, not census data), but I can't find one.

No one is saying that white males are the "source of all evil." Admittedly, part of the reason that women make, ON AVERAGE, less than men, is because they are in lower paying jobs, such as daycare workers, etc. But, we need to ask ourselves, do women seek out lower paying careers, or are they placed there, in many ways, by the constraints of our society?

[king2005]

Okay, let's all join in the chorus.........


White Male Residents of the United States are the source of all evil in the world.



Just as an example.............

Let's take the PO I work at as a microcosm.......

There are males and females in all jobs. Clerks, mailhandlers, techs, etc.

On average, the Males earn about 15-20% more than most (not all) of the females. How is that so, when we're a union shop, everyone's on the same wage scale, and equal opportunity is brutally enforced?

Very simply, out of all the female clerks, there are Three on the OT list. Out of all the mailhandlers, there are two females on the OT list. Out of all the maintenance personnel, there is one female on the OT list.

I would be amused to see the results of a study comparing annual compensation in relation to hours worked for males and females (By payroll data, not census data), but I can't find one.

Maybe Canada is different from the usa in that department. Here in this company, its fairly = as to who gets OT & who does't. It also really depends on the job.
Ex. The people who work in Credits & Accounting all get OT regardless of sex, however the majority are females. Most of the TOP managers have to do OT & they happen to be mostly Korean males (from Korea).. Then in the Call Centre its based on stats & who wants to do it. The top OT person there is a female & shes one of 2 females, as most females don't like call centres, but they do hire plenty, they just don't last as long.

My dad worked at the RRC for 30yrs & was getting they same pay as everyone else. Sometimes even less as he choose not to do overtime, so he could go home & spend time with his kids.

Just from what I've seen from all my jobs & others jobs, OT is based on job, need, & who wants to do it, not Sex... I'm sure if more males are willing to do OT, then DUH males are gonna have a larger pay cheque in the end.. but before OT we're all equal & some raises are soley based on skills/personal stats. As my raise was higher then many males cause I worked my butt off & earned it.

[Lady's Human]

King,

The OT list in the PO is voluntary. The point I was making is that on average, women working the same jobs as men in the plant I'm in make less. Not because of the wage scale (all on equal footing) but because of the number of hours worked, because the female employees are less likely to sign up for overtime.

[king2005]

King,

The OT list in the PO is voluntary. The point I was making is that on average, women working the same jobs as men in the plant I'm in make less. Not because of the wage scale (all on equal footing) but because of the number of hours worked, because the female employees are less likely to sign up for overtime.

If the women choose not to do OT then thats their own problem. Thats a large issue with the stats, t doesn't break it down. Compair normal hours & then OT thats asked, required, forced to do or does not want to do. I'm sure that people will realize that Women choose not to make more money on average, not that they cannot.

Thats why I dissgree with the race or sex schoolarships. It should be based on skills period.

[Pembroke_Corgi]

I'm sure that people will realize that Women choose not to make more money on average, not that they cannot.

I suppose you could argue that women choose not to make more money because they just don't like working overtime.

However, you could also point out, that most of the burden of childcare, household tasks, etc, falls on women in most households. Maybe, they simply don't have the time to work OT, unlike some of their male counterparts.

[Blue_Frog]

The top OT person there is a female & shes one of 2 females, as most females don't like call centres, but they do hire plenty, they just don't last as long.

I miss the call centre some days ... it was great, since I was in a senior position, i got to tell all the 20-something guys what to do *snicker* ... But, I was one of only 3 girls there at the time out of about 30 people.

Just from what I've seen from all my jobs & others jobs, OT is based on job, need, & who wants to do it, not Sex... I'm sure if more males are willing to do OT, then DUH males are gonna have a larger pay cheque in the end.. but before OT we're all equal & some raises are soley based on skills/personal stats. As my raise was higher then many males cause I worked my butt off & earned it.

What is this Paid OT about which you speak? Darnit, if only i wasn't salary, I could have made some mad cash for working 18 extra hours over this weekend. Ah well.