I think I might..just might...

[wolfsoul]

Not enough coat to be a Terv.

Not true at all -- tervs out of mal or working lines often have short coats.

These are all Belgian tervuren...

[borzoimom]

Not true at all -- tervs out of mal or working lines often have short coats.

These are all Belgian tervuren...

I know the pictures and you are right- but this a male. Much more likely to have more coat than a female. The accepted coat in the US in a Terv is much more shorter than accepted in other countries.
I just saw the post on this being a mix. This would explain the ears.
However- doesnt matter though as her parents said no...
I am still getting use to those outside the US seperating this breed differently than we do. Here this would be a Malinois- .. Even a Belgium ( our black variety) can produce Terv puppies. Its registered just that way too... The Malinois here is coatless- including the tail. Its strange- I guess like the Norfolk and the Norwich- still capable of producing varieties within the breed itself ...
Well I guess if we can have ASCOB cockers in black cocker litters and parti colored- I guess so.. I am waiting for the next turn in breed recognition with the Red and White setter- accepted in other countries as an Irish Setter, but here the Irish is only red, with the red and white making another breed/variety.

[wolfsoul]

I know the pictures and you are right- but this a male. Much more likely to have more coat than a female. The accepted coat in the US in a Terv is much more shorter than accepted in other countries.

The first two pictures are of males. A short coated terv is still a short coated terv regardless of sex -- it all depends on the genetics. A terv out of two mals is likely to have a shorter coat. Lack of coat isn't really more "accepted" in the US -- it's just more common to find a dog lacking coat in the show ring. In Europe, with the amount of Belgians out there, one wouldn't even bother showing a shorter coated dog.


Here is another terv out of mal lines, a female..

And a male terv from working lines..

[borzoimom]

Opps I am sorry honey- I am sooooooooo past my bed time- .. I am sorry- you are right... We just do the breed differently here based on coat totally..

The first two pictures are of males. A short coated terv is still a short coated terv regardless of sex -- it all depends on the genetics. A terv out of two mals is likely to have a shorter coat. Lack of coat isn't really more "accepted" in the US -- it's just more common to find a dog lacking coat in the show ring. In Europe, with the amount of Belgians out there, one wouldn't even bother showing a shorter coated dog.


Here is another terv out of mal lines, a female..

And a male terv from working lines..