Major Worries! IT's EVEN WORSE!!!

**borzoimom** · 11-25-2006, 02:48 PM

I am going to pm you with private message how to help this, but this much I will say here. If he had a felony and possessing a weapon, not only will it not be returned to him, but where he bought it from could be too.
You do need to talk to the police. They will tell you specific details but more so, it shows a inquiry for protection purposes. If she is in a womans shelter, they will tell her specific things to do too. She needs to do what she says.. And it never changes..

**Karen** · 11-25-2006, 03:42 PM

Oh, Kim. Does Amy Beth work a specific schedule at her new job? Can she ask to switch shifts with someone, so he cannot follow her home from work, or intercept her on her way there? Does she have a cell phone, and have 911 as a preset? She should, at this point. Getting rides from different people would also help, so he doesn't know what car to follow.

This is a horrible situation, and I hope he does something else stupid unrelated to Amy Beth and Jenna, so he gets sent to jail before long.

**kimlovescats** · 11-25-2006, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Karen

Oh, Kim. Does Amy Beth work a specific schedule at her new job? Can she ask to switch shifts with someone, so he cannot follow her home from work, or intercept her on her way there? Does she have a cell phone, and have 911 as a preset? She should, at this point. Getting rides from different people would also help, so he doesn't know what car to follow.

This is a horrible situation, and I hope he does something else stupid unrelated to Amy Beth and Jenna, so he gets sent to jail before long.

Unfortunately she works 2nd shift (3pm to 11:00 pm)

He does know where she works. She does have a cell phone, don't know if it is pre-set to 911 though. I'll ask her about that. As far as switching shifts, she is still in her probation period for this new job, and she is already worried that her boss might not want to deal with this drama. The police came to her work and took her complaint last night, so that delayed her work as it was. At least the gun was a BB gun ... but as the police told her, could still kill!

He just recently purchased a different car too, so I'm not used to spotting it, but Amy Beth is.

As far as him doing something else stupid ... he already has! He was stealing large ($100 +) rolls of copper and hammering to make it look old and selling it to a local metal company. He was stupid enough to bring it home and brag about it to Amy Beth and showed the sales receipts and brag about how much he made off of it! I called his boss and told on him for that, a couple of weeks ago. Apparently last night, the police told Amy Beth that they were already investigating that as well! I sure hope so!!!!

I'm praying that if we all make it safely to the January 2nd court date, that he will be put away for a long time!!!!!

**Lady's Human** · 11-25-2006, 04:03 PM

Kim,

The bright side to this dark cloud is that if the DA prosecutes on all charges, this piece of trash could be going to jail for a long time.

Posession of a firearm in commission of a crime (and threatening to commit murder is most certainly a crime) is a felony. If he's already a felon, his mere posession of the firearm (and yes, a bb gun IS a firearm) is a federal offense. I doubt he got the weapon legally, as when you're purchasing a bb gun you still have to fill out the BATF paperwork for the NIC check, so that also adds to the charges. If he did get the weapon from a firearms retailer (highly doubtful) then he should also be prosecuted for filing a false statement, as the paperwork clearly asks several questions that he would have had to lie on to purchase it from a retailer.

Properly prosecuted, buh bye, scum. I hope he likes his new cellmate.

**kimlovescats** · 11-25-2006, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Lady's Human

Kim,

The bright side to this dark cloud is that if the DA prosecutes on all charges, this piece of trash could be going to jail for a long time.

Posession of a firearm in commission of a crime (and threatening to commit murder is most certainly a crime) is a felony. If he's already a felon, his mere posession of the firearm (and yes, a bb gun IS a firearm) is a federal offense. I doubt he got the weapon legally, as when you're purchasing a bb gun you still have to fill out the BATF paperwork for the NIC check, so that also adds to the charges. If he did get the weapon from a firearms retailer (highly doubtful) then he should also be prosecuted for filing a false statement, as the paperwork clearly asks several questions that he would have had to lie on to purchase it from a retailer.

Properly prosecuted, buh bye, scum. I hope he likes his new cellmate.

Thank you for saying these things! I agree with what you have stated. Amy Beth was told last night that because he was already a felon that like you said, this is now a federal crime! Please GOD, let the system work for us this time!!!

Kim

**sandragonfly** · 11-25-2006, 04:29 PM

goodness, what a sick man he is.

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I went through JUST exact like this last year.. terrible stress for all of you.

nothing much you can do right now, at least do what karen adviced - amy beth should always always watch out for his car and drive different way (into public place) if he is behind her - and keep doing what you can do. I hope her cell has that option, pre-set 911 and at her home too.

had any idea what to do with news? publicizing him out anonymously as much as you can warn, may be dangerous but may will him sulk down a bit.

let me PM you when I get back, okay?? for now, you all definitely are in my prayers for strength and safety!

((((hugs))))

**heidiv** · 11-25-2006, 07:18 PM

oh dear kim---

I don't know what to tell you about all of this. But scary, give that little grand daughter a big hug. My thoughts and prayers will be with you and your family!!

**catmandu** · 11-25-2006, 09:38 PM

We Are Praying That You, And Your Family Are Safe From This Lunatic.
Those Are Terrible Situations Where He Can Have A Gun Returned To Him , Even After He Has Made Death Threats Against Your Daughter.
There Are More Rights For Criminals Than Law Abiding People Sadly.
We Pray That You Will Not Be Hurt.
If Theres Anything Thats Ruining North America , Its Narcotics.