Scholarship For Whites Only

[JenBKR]

I agree with the others, it's about time! My scholarships for college were so wonderful to have, but since I am white I didn't get nearly as much as my SIL, who is 1/8 Native American, and my grades in high school were much higher.

I know this is a little off topic (sorry), but I'm a bit confused about how a scholarship is defined here. I have a scholarship, and I won it by gaining the highest marks in the entrance exam of my school.

That bit threw me a little, if you apply for it, then isn't that a bursary, technically not a scholarship? Perhaps I am just not reading it right

What is a bursary? Maybe things are done different here.....most, if not all, scholarships have to be applied for. You usually have to send in an essay also (well not always, but sometimes).

[Miss Z]

What is a bursary? Maybe things are done different here.....most, if not all, scholarships have to be applied for. You usually have to send in an essay also (well not always, but sometimes).

Perhaps things are different here. I recognise the word 'scholarship' to mean an award that has been won on academic or sporting achievements in some kind of examination. A bursary, to me, is when a potential student applies or appeals for lower school fees due to the income their parents receive and based on the fact that they are intelligent enough to excel for the school. Thanks anyway for clearing that up, JenBKR

[Cataholic]

I am caucasian, and female, living in the midwest. While I don't think Affirmative Action really works, I do not think that there is equality in the races, genders, ethnicities, either. I do not believe that non-caucasians are given the same chance/opportunity as caucasians, and while I don't know what the answer to this problem is, I can't pretend that I don't see the problem, either.

I see discrimination all the time. I hear it from clients, I see it in the courts, and I read about it in the news. I suppose one could simply suppose that all those people that claim it happens are simply lying, but, I don't think that is the case. While I, personally, haven't felt discriminated upon (harrassed, yes, discriminated upon, no), I have witnessed it personally, with several dear friends. It exists.

I don't think that a Whites Only Scholarship is appropriate, nor is it funny. It is sad. I don't think Caucasians need any more advantages then most of us are already given, simply for the colour of our skin.

[sparks19]

I am caucasian, and female, living in the midwest. While I don't think Affirmative Action really works, I do not think that there is equality in the races, genders, ethnicities, either. I do not believe that non-caucasians are given the same chance/opportunity as caucasians, and while I don't know what the answer to this problem is, I can't pretend that I don't see the problem, either.

I see discrimination all the time. I hear it from clients, I see it in the courts, and I read about it in the news. I suppose one could simply suppose that all those people that claim it happens are simply lying, but, I don't think that is the case. While I, personally, haven't felt discriminated upon (harrassed, yes, discriminated upon, no), I have witnessed it personally, with several dear friends. It exists.

I don't think that a Whites Only Scholarship is appropriate, nor is it funny. It is sad. I don't think Caucasians need any more advantages then most of us are already given, simply for the colour of our skin.

why is it onlly discrimination when White people do it?

Why isn't it discrimination when people of colour call us crackers.... or honkey...or make fun of the way we "act". Why is it funny then? Seems for black comedians it is a career.... making fun of white people. If a white person were to make fun of the way they walk, talk, act then we would be labelled racists? Why is it different?

While I agree there are still many whites out there that are racist I believe there are just as many people of other nationalities that are the same way. this is a two way street and I don't think in this day and age that we have any advantage over anyone.

Equal opportunity employment, race specific scholarships etc etc. there are PLENTY of people that are not Caucasian that made it through life, went to college, got a great job, without these race specific advantages.

If other races want to be treated as equals then they should be equals. Pointing out their differences and giving them advantages over others does not do that, it only singles them out even more.

[Twisterdog]

why is it onlly discrimination when White people do it?

Why isn't it discrimination when people of colour call us crackers.... or honkey...or make fun of the way we "act". Why is it funny then? Seems for black comedians it is a career.... making fun of white people. If a white person were to make fun of the way they walk, talk, act then we would be labelled racists? Why is it different?

While I agree there are still many whites out there that are racist I believe there are just as many people of other nationalities that are the same way. this is a two way street and I don't think in this day and age that we have any advantage over anyone.

Equal opportunity employment, race specific scholarships etc etc. there are PLENTY of people that are not Caucasian that made it through life, went to college, got a great job, without these race specific advantages.

If other races want to be treated as equals then they should be equals. Pointing out their differences and giving them advantages over others does not do that, it only singles them out even more.

Excellent post. I agree.

[IRescue452]

I didn't want to get involved in this, but economic and sociological studies show that non-whites and females are still at a major disadvantage in our country. I've got no problem with scholarships for them. And while I believe that people have every right to make a scholarship for whites, I don't believe they are sending a good message. Furthermore I think many of the comments made by pters on this thread are dissappointingly ignorant and unfortunately they reflect all to well the attitudes of white christian americans.

[Lady's Human]

Furthermore I think many of the comments made by pters on this thread are dissappointingly ignorant and unfortunately they reflect all to well the attitudes of white christian americans.

Since when did CHristianity have anything to do with it?

Even the Army in it's bureaucratic morass has done away with set-asides for minorities. They finally realized that all they were doing by giving extra promotion points for minorities was making the situation worse.

Discrimination is discrimination. By institutionalizing it in any way the situation worsens, it doesn't improve.

[Vela]

So I guess if you are a poor white male who can't afford to go to college too bad for you since MOST white americans seem to have no problem affording stuff??...that logic is flawed. ALL people of ALL nationalities should have the same opportunities in this country and not be discriminated against simply for being born a specific color or gender. Anyone who feels it's not okay for everyone to have segregated scholarships, if ANY do, is practicing reverse descrimination. If there is a United Negro College Fund and a Hispanic College Assistance Program, there should be able to be a Caucaisan College Fund or Caucasian scholarship, just like anyone else, without people getting bent out of shape about it. Go ask some poor white people who could use a helping hand. There are PLENTY in need, just like every other race. I'm tired of hearing how everyone else is wronged and white people have all the advantages, it's just not true. There are LOTS of poor white people and underpriviledged white kids, just like everyone else. Either get rid of the race issue completely for those needing help and scholarships, etc, or make it available for ALL races to have their own without complaints. I vote for getting rid of it and letting everyone attempt to earn them by hard work and effort, not color of skin.

[Twisterdog]

Furthermore I think many of the comments made by pters on this thread are dissappointingly ignorant and unfortunately they reflect all to well the attitudes of white christian americans.

Don't know if you're referring to me or not, but in case you are ... I'm 1/4 Native American, and I've never used that fact to get a scholarship, job, etc. Neither has my mother, who is 1/2, or my grandmother, who is full Native American. We could all be on the rolls right now, but none of us ever has been ... we all chose to make it in life based on our intelligence and hard work, not the color of our skin.

My son is 1/2 Hispanic, and I've raised him the same way. If he gets a scholarship to college or a great job, it will be because he is intelligent and a hard worker, not because his great-great-grand-father happened to be born in Mexico.

And, BTW, I'm not a Christian, either.

I just happen to believe that people ... ALL people ... ought to sink or swim, make it or fail, based on their own individual qualitities, not where their ancestors happened to be born.

[Sevaede]

I didn't want to get involved in this, but economic and sociological studies show that non-whites and females are still at a major disadvantage in our country. I've got no problem with scholarships for them. And while I believe that people have every right to make a scholarship for whites, I don't believe they are sending a good message. Furthermore I think many of the comments made by pters on this thread are dissappointingly ignorant and unfortunately they reflect all to well the attitudes of white christian americans.

Is this directed towards me?

My *whole* stance on the WHOLE situation is this it is unfair for either race to do it period. I think that maybe in the beginning, yeah, I could understand because there was still a great deal of racism something like 50 and 60 years ago. Now, they serve no purpose except to add fuel to the fire.

Did you know that I was denied medical care (insurance, rather) by where I used to live, and Yes, they told me this, because I was white? What's a girl with a heart defect supposed to do?

I guess when my husband was younger and in school, he'd have friends who happened to be black. Their parents would FORCE them to fail school because they got money when that happened. (or something to that effect, I'd have to ask him later)

I am not racist, not by any means. There is supposedly some NA on my mothers side and something else on my fathers side. Most of my friends happen to be folks with hispanic backgrounds, black backgrounds, etc. Also, my best friend when I was younger was a girl who happend to have biracial background. I have a friend whose daughter is biracial. My niece, Grace, is biracial and I certainly don't count that against her. =/ I have a friend with biracial family. Yes, I ALSO have black family members (Two cousins and an aunt, through my departed uncle).

To sum it up... I think that if people REALLY wanna be progressive then they should refer to you by something other than your race, etc. How about just "person" or "dude" or whatever?

[Pembroke_Corgi]

. this is a two way street and I don't think in this day and age that we have any advantage over anyone.

I thought this comment was a bit over the top, sorry. Women still, to this day, make something like 23% less than men in this country. Minority groups still experience racism in everyday life, and while things are better, they are not nearly perfect.

I don't agree with any kind of racism- but when a group has experienced institutionalized racism for sooooo long, I can understand where specific scholarships come from. That being said, I would prefer to see scholarships given to students based on a mixture of academics and finances.

[Cataholic]

I thought this comment was a bit over the top, sorry. Women still, to this day, make something like 23% less than men in this country. Minority groups still experience racism in everyday life, and while things are better, they are not nearly perfect.

I don't agree with any kind of racism- but when a group has experienced institutionalized racism for sooooo long, I can understand where specific scholarships come from. That being said, I would prefer to see scholarships given to students based on a mixture of academics and finances.

Well said, PC. I think the majority of people that don't 'see' racism, sexism, etc., are simply not paying attention. And, seems largely white, as well!

[king2005]

I'm white & I'm the Minority here in this city, & I see racism all the time. its mostly towards whites too. Most places to work here are not held by whites, as the owners aren't white, so they mostly stick to their own race. Just go to a Timmies & count the white people. Its rare to see us there. Even in this huge company I work for, there is few whites. More Indians & Koreans then anything.

Honestly I just ignore it all & don't care. I was just lucky that I had plenty of manager work exp. back in Ottawa & this company saw that & took me on, but I had to work my butt off to excell over others, which ment overtime, little sleep & coming into work ill & hungry... Andrew isn't so lucky, he has less work exp. as he went to university & he can't even get a job at a fast food joint. hes been jobless for over a month. & whats sad is that the turn over rate at the places hes applying to are insane, cause they keep picking race over skills & personality (as in a good work ethic, mind set kind of thing).

Being whitie & walking through the park is scary as heck! The only people I've read being randomly attacked here are white. 2 young white ladies were shot with pellet guns 11+ times in the park at 11am (sunny day).

When I worked for this company about a year ago, they shuned me because I was the only whitie & couldn't pronounce 1/2 their clients names properly. I heard the whitie jokes too..

So being white doesn't make me ontop. I fully understand racism & being hated for who I am (gone through that all my life, including being beaten & picked on).. & I still dissagree with this race scholarship BS... It should be given to the "people" who earn it with skils, not race!