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    Sorry....but that dog won't hunt...

    First....I can bash my family....they are my family after all ....but you (and my husband )are not welcome to do so.

    So saying members of a group use offensive language within the group...does not give me permission to do so.

    And if the whole world operated on the principle some of you are suggesting....some members of a group sing really offensive songs that I don't like hearing. Therefore, I am justified in saying REALLY offensive things to OTHER members of that same group conflict and war would be never ending....oh...wait...that is what happens....

    I am not responsible for other people's behavior...only my own...and that goes for Michael Richards, Mel Gibson and those hecklers...

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    Well, I think that the "n" word or any other racist comment is offensive, so people shouldn't say it. I don't think it matters whether or not some African Americans may use it or not. The point is, it is respectful not to say things that hurt others.

    I also don't think his comments were in any way justified because the audience was being obnoxious. If they were being racist as well, that doesn't make his behavior any better.

    About Seinfeld's character, I agree with Edwina's Secretary- I dislike the characters and have never been very interested in the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pembroke_Corgi
    Well, I think that the "n" word or any other racist comment is offensive, so people shouldn't say it. I don't think it matters whether or not some African Americans may use it or not. The point is, it is respectful not to say things that hurt others.

    I also don't think his comments were in any way justified because the audience was being obnoxious. If they were being racist as well, that doesn't make his behavior any better.

    About Seinfeld's character, I agree with Edwina's Secretary- I dislike the characters and have never been very interested in the show.
    I agree wholeheartedly.
    I don't care for Seinfeld, nor any of the characters on the show, so I didn't watch them. I never thought they were as funny as they thought they were!
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    HMMMM this is very interesting. He was completely out of control and there is NO excuse for his actions. But even though they pale in comparison I find it funny that no one pointed out the "cracker" comment. Afterall that is their word for us. That is the N word for White People basically. it was all said with hatred and disrespect. Racism is Racism is Racism. it doens't matter who it comes from (white black brown etc etc) or who it is directed at. It doesn't matter if ones words were more hateful than the others words. It is all racism. Seems almost like a double standard.

    However, I am absolutely disgusted with his behaviour. He really needs to seek some sort of help.

    As for them calling themselves the N word..... the only thing I have to add to that is..... How can you ever expect people to respect you when you can't even respect yourselves. When they call each other that I think it is just as disparaging and disrespectful as it would be if it came from someone else.




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    I am a Seinfeld fan, and I liked Cosmo Kramer, the character. but after the show ended, I saw Michael Richards in a movie and I didn't care for it at all. He was crass and gross. I also saw Jerry Seinfeld on David Letterman, and the Richards apology. He seemed bewildered by his own behavior and said repeatedly that he has anger issues to work on, that he has to go do some internal work. He did not try to justify saying what he did.
    I've heard people of all races say horrible things about other races, just not on a public stage. Unfortunately, this will probably ruin his career. It was just too "politically incorrect".

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