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[caseysmom]

Your entitled to your opinion, I don't share that opinion though...apparantly not on a lot of subjects.

[borzoimom]

Your entitled to your opinion, I don't share that opinion though...apparantly not on a lot of subjects.

thats your decission not mine caseysmom- life is too short for that one. .. Have a nice day..

[borzoimom]

thank you tft- I have never had a fight in this method- they alllllll know who is what to whom..

[critter crazy]

I agree with Borzoimom! Yes the human is always the top dog, but there is still a heirarchy to the dogs! They have to have order just like we do. no matter how delusioned you are dogs always have a heirarchy, there is always a top dog! One will always be at the top of the order. It is the way they are, going back to the wolves. There is no getting around this, it is instinct.

[borzoimom]

I agree with Borzoimom! Yes the human is always the top dog, but there is still a heirarchy to the dogs! They have to have order just like we do. no matter how delusioned you are dogs always have a heirarchy, there is always a top dog! One will always be at the top of the order. It is the way they are, going back to the wolves. There is no getting around this, it is instinct.

Yes ma'am there is- and if you let the pack mentality of who is who take over but we are the top dog, you never have fights. I never did- and I let their natural nature of what their place is be the opperating factor. There is no way in the world you could control 35 dogs or even 4 if this was not in place. Each dog loves their place in order- its their place and they know it...
Now Zubin is under hottie out of age, but he is intact. But he knows- hottie is boss ( after me of course) and has NEVER challeneged Hottie because of this. Hottie, at his age and medical situation could never fight back- but no need for that worry- it was set- Hottie is boss. I let the pack mentality of who is where and in what order do most of the work. That is how I got 35 dogs to live in unison- seperated only at eating time and bed time for sleep..

[critter crazy]

It was the same way with my horses! Cocoa was top mare cause she was here first! Zoey came next, but she was so young(8 months) that when Alkris an older mare came she took second, which left Zoey at third. They knew their order, and we never had any problems. I was top mare, but they still had their own order. It is nature. It si what keeps them happy. Without order there is chaos!

[borzoimom]

It was the same way with my horses! Cocoa was top mare cause she was here first! Zoey came next, but she was so young(8 months) that when Alkris an older mare came she took second, which left Zoey at third. They knew their order, and we never had any problems. I was top mare, but they still had their own order. It is nature. It si what keeps them happy. Without order there is chaos!

EXACTLY!!! Very good.. !!!

[borzoimom]

opps - sorry- you said the pics were coming.. Looking forward to seeing them.. !!! Take care.

[Jakesmom]

I'm curious, what do you do if the first dog is totally "beta"? Jake, the golden, was 8 years old when we got Sophie, the ECS. Jake was an only dog for from puppyhood until he was 2, then we had a wheaton terrier for about 5 years and he died at age 13. Sophie, the English Cocker, LOVES her big brother, and he sort of tolerates her. She pesters him, tries to get him to play, licks his ears constantly, etc, and rarely he lets out a small growl, which stops her for about 30 seconds.

I can't figure out which one is alpha?--I think its Jake, as Sophie does listen to him, if only briefly, and he certainly never changes his behavior because of her, but what do you do if you have an easy going first dog and an exuberant and/or "alpha" newcomer?

Jakesmom