Pitbulls ??Aggression, Fact or Not???

[caseysmom]

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[Jadapit]

How do you think I feel? I visit my friend every tuesday IN JAIL..... She is on suicide watch btw.. I am nottttttttt kidding... One afternoon changed her life totally... This is awful. Someone needs to tell the bad side of this- maybe if nothing else for someone to do something. ... And the gentlemen that was killed in his own house when he tried to feed his dogs.. Can you imagine? This wasnt a trailer park type of dog- this was a member of the communittee chewed to shreds... by his own dogs...

I honestly dont understand why your friend's in jail? They usually do take the dog but not the human to jail. Why isnt anyone bailing her out??? The bail cant be that high. I asked you this before but you never answered me. Was your friends pit bull in a fenced yard? I have no idea why the mans three dogs killed him. That is awful. Sooooo many times when it comes to a pit bull attack there are two sides to the story we never hear the whole truth if its up to the media.

You have told your side of the story over and over we get it but it still doesn't chande my mind about the breed. I can find you horror stories about other dogs that have attacked and yes even killed people. I have a neighbor that owned an Akita he attacked a couple of people. Does that make me hate the Akita? No. A family rottie in our area attacked one of its family members (a little girl) a week or so ago. Do I hate rotties now? No. I dont think anyone should ever hate a dog because of its breed. I'm really done with this thread now. You take care....

[rutylr]

At least, that is what I thought. I don't think the AKC recognizes a breed as "pitbull," but I am not sure. Of course, there are plenty of rare breeds not recognized by AKC. But I am not sure pitbull is one of those, either..

UKC and ADBA do/
American Pit Bull Terriers were around why before AKC got a hold of them and changed the name To American Staffordshire Terrier

[borzoimom]

I honestly dont understand why your friend's in jail? They usually do take the dog but not the human to jail. Why isnt anyone bailing her out??? The bail cant be that high. I asked you this before but you never answered me. Was your friends pit bull in a fenced yard? I have no idea why the mans three dogs killed him. That is awful. Sooooo many times when it comes to a pit bull attack there are two sides to the story we never hear the whole truth if its up to the media.

You have told your side of the story over and over we get it but it still doesn't chande my mind about the breed. I can find you horror stories about other dogs that have attacked and yes even killed people. I have a neighbor that owned an Akita he attacked a couple of people. Does that make me hate the Akita? No. A family rottie in our area attacked one of its family members (a little girl) a week or so ago. Do I hate rotties now? No. I dont think anyone should ever hate a dog because of its breed. I'm really done with this thread now. You take care....

The bail was set at 50 grand, and it was also considered attempted homocide because the woman almost died. Then the insurance got involved with this- and criminal assalt charges because of the type of breed, and although we all showed up to say what a wonderful dog this was, with obedience titles etc he said it was criminal assult. The whole thing just snow balled! Then they did a neocropsy on the dog to prove that the dog must have been sick - nope... its was awful! Then a few miles down the road, this man that was a deacon in the whole town church was mauled to death by his dogs at feeding time.. nooooooooo one has a clue about that one.. Soooo the county banned all of the pit breeds within the city limits and the county if you register the dogs with the PD... Theeeennnn 6 months before allllllll of this, a member of our county was attached, elderly woman and she and her little shitzu were killed.. Soooooooooooooooooo ( sigh..) the county has had enough.... Alllllllllll of the incidents none of the attacks made any sense at all as far as being predictable. Even the older woman that was killed- the dogs did get loose once in a while, but they always went to play with the kids in the playground at the elementary school- that one day they didnt..
I am sorry= I am looking for answers as much as everyone else is= only in mind to explain why this happens??? I mean I know other breeds attack too- but not with the seriouseness of these attacks.. I mean out of NOOOOOOOOO WHERE..
Answer me this- what do I tell my friend when she keeps asking me " Michelle- why???? why???? Ssoooooooooooooo trained...= why?? why???"- I feel soooooooo stupid saying its Gods will and I dont know the answer.. Just once I want to give her answer.. Especially when the medical tests on the dog came back the dog was totally healthy....

[borzoimom]

She lost her house because she was in jail, and couldnt work and the house forclosed- then the lawsuits came in and stopped the forclosure for a better sale- so after it was done- it barely paid off the mortagage but she still owes a ton of money in the law suit for the attack and pain and suffereing which of course- incures interest etc...

[caseysmom]

Which county in Virginia is this?

[rutylr]

I reread this thread before it went astray.
If your friend was traing and obtained a CD and CDX on this dog.It was not a pit bull.....It was an American Staffordshire Terrier.

[Heather78418]

Everyone Please Stop!!!!



I only started this thread to give my husband some insight. Not to start arguements. I personally love the breed.Everyone has their opinions .. Fine! When I sarted tyhis I wnted positive insights. I know the bad and the good . I wanted my husband to hear some good points . all you ever hear on TV is the bad. I am tired of it. We do not have a breed ban where I live , I know the insurance. My dad has one. I am etting a puppy from him . I know the parents of the puppies. I would trust my kids with them 100%. And trust me, my children try my patience so you know what these dogs go through. But they love my children.I am so sorry that this turned into an arguement. I am sorry that your friend is in jail, I really am. But like everyone here is saying , there are two sides to every story. Again I am sorry this turned the way it did.

[borzoimom]

I reread this thread before it went astray.
If your friend was traing and obtained a CD and CDX on this dog.It was not a pit bull.....It was an American Staffordshire Terrier.

That is correct.. But the judge lumped them in the same catagory- and the other two deaths were also American Staffy's also... Is one breed more problematic than the others? Like I know bull terriers and bull dogs are doll babies... I wish I had answers to my questions..

[caseysmom]

Which county did this ban happen in?

[luvofallhorses]

Everyone Please Stop!!!!



I only started this thread to give my husband some insight. Not to start arguements. I personally love the breed.Everyone has their opinions .. Fine! When I sarted tyhis I wnted positive insights. I know the bad and the good . I wanted my husband to hear some good points . all you ever hear on TV is the bad. I am tired of it. We do not have a breed ban where I live , I know the insurance. My dad has one. I am etting a puppy from him . I know the parents of the puppies. I would trust my kids with them 100%. And trust me, my children try my patience so you know what these dogs go through. But they love my children.I am so sorry that this turned into an arguement. I am sorry that your friend is in jail, I really am. But like everyone here is saying , there are two sides to every story. Again I am sorry this turned the way it did.

It's NOT your fault! there's just some people on here that have to be negative about them.

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now for a positive thing..

you would seriously love this girl at the shelter where I volunteer.

she's a sweetie. her name is Te Koa and she is 8 months old now.




http://pbrc.net/webapp/cgi-bin/dog_d...c07e6a?id=2232

[borzoimom]

all breeds- you have to know both sides of the details here.. Better to know than not and have something happen.... Just like people that get sighthounds that have cats, if they arent told they will chase cats, a problem can occur... Doing the same thing here...

[Heather78418]

First off ....sorry for the outburst. She is beautiful. How old is she?? I hate how people get them and then decide they dont want them. Thats how I got my five month old kitty. Someone threw her away in a dumpster when she was just two months old. Where are you located??

[caseysmom]

Which county were you referring to borzoimom?

[luvofallhorses]

my hound gets along GREAT with my cats!

he would never harm them. guess what he was doing when I went into my parent's bedroom to get the dog dishes? he was snuggling with Miagi.