Pitbulls ??Aggression, Fact or Not???

[borzoimom]

I hear you casey- but the fact is- this is a dog that wont even be used by a police department. The reason- they cant control the release in a bite ( hold) and may not direct to the person sent for.
I trained dogs as my second profession for 20 years- they would not use a pitt.. The reason- they can not get the dog to release a bite, and can not insure the dog will only go who they are sent for and not bite their handler on the release.. I am sorry- but its true- they will not even use the dogs for police work.
I proudly trained shepherds for police work- this is the same dogs that would go lay with my child and come into the house with other dogs- but they knew who was in control, and I never EVER worried they understood who had control.. You dont have this with this breed- even rejected by alllllllllll the police departments for this reason- THEY CANT CONTROL THE BITE, THE RELEASE of the bite, or who the "suspect is" in the dogs mind...

[caseysmom]

I am not going to argue with you but I completely disagree with you and hope all the people that have come here from the other board don't hate pitties.

[borzoimom]

I am not going to argue with you but I completely disagree with you and hope all the people that have come here from the other board don't hate pitties.

I am just saying- just like I have to watch my borzois in the event of cats and small dogs for the chase reflex- this dog will attack out of NOWHERE and you cant stop it.... cant.. that is a awful burdon to me.
All my dogs are insured- when I had shepherds that were police dogs, I was insured including house checks, but it protected my financial interests-.. The agencies know- this is NOT reliable breed- and it doesnt just bite- it maims, kills with such visciousness its like the dog becomes possessed... A mix of pit would better than a "pure bred" even then- its a serious problem.. Think about this- if the police departments wont use them because they are unpredicable- what does that tell you? It means- you can not get these breeds off of an attack- PERIOD.. I am sorry but my life style, the lives of my other dogs, the life of my children ( grown) and grandchildren is not WORTH one single LIFE CHANGING EVENT... Its not worth it when soooooooooo many other pets in shelters need a home- this is not worth it...

[caseysmom]

by the way- I am looking at the dogs head posture= the dogs jaws are locked, eyes are fixed, ears up and stare intense.. Please move the baby..

Sorry but anyone that got that from the picture just doesn't have my respect on this matter...ears up? Are we looking at the same picture?????

And by the way I am 45 so you can't use the age thing with me that you pulled on buttercup.

[borzoimom]

I am southern- we call everyone honey or sugarpie= it is NOT reference of age. I am also 46 years old as well, and would think nothing of it.. sorry If I offeneded.. I am southern... That is how we talk... yes ma'am... btw- many think our accent means we are stupid- we are not... lol..

[Jadapit]

I hear you casey- but the fact is- this is a dog that wont even be used by a police department.

Not true. Here are some links showing pit bulls working for the police....

http://www.workingpitbull.com/activities.htm

http://www.hsus.org/pets/pets_relate...ice_pooch.html


http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories

http://www.pitbulllovers.com/pitbull...-bomb-dog.html

[borzoimom]

Let me give you an example- we were at a dog show recently to show my two younger ones. This lady had a champion chihuahua, and said to her husband " oh wow!!! take a picture of the big the dog and ( whats his name).. zubin - at over 36 at the shoulder raised his ears ( borzoi for hunt) but I had him on a tight lead.. anyway her husband took a picture with holding the 5 pound chi, and then we stopped. She put the dog down and the chi started dancing around- I saw zubins ears go up ( hunt and chase in borzoi language) and I grabbed him at the muzzle as he tried to take off.. Now mind you- zubin was fine when the dog was held- not so when the dog attempted to run... Its my breed- I know for God sake if they will chase a white plastic bag, anything small will trigger... I accept that- I dont have cats anymore, would love a toy but know that wont work as an accident waiting to happen..
I know my heart - my dogs are my heart and soul but I accept that my dogs will chase- including bears... ( no kidding) if it runs... This is the same thing here only more serious= these dogs mame, and I would rather not worry when a dog i had caused greatttttttttt pain or death.. I just have to keep my big guys from chasing bags- this COULD BE a human life or someones treasured pet.
We had 5 deaths in this county with trained pitts even therapy dogs.. I am sorry= the breeds are past their point of usefulness..
Now we have 45 dogs in our local shelter- please adopt one ... PLEASE...

[caseysmom]

Yeah jadapit, I know they are used for this, I just don't have the energy to argue with ignorance....

by the way there are many people killed by dogs that are not pitbulls...I wish people would get their facts straight.

[borzoimom]

you believe what you want- pray you have good insurance and have a nice day.. I know otherwise... take care..

[caseysmom]

sure we won't confuse you with the facts, you obviously have made up your mind.

[rutylr]

I hear you casey- but the fact is- this is a dog that wont even be used by a police department. The reason- they cant control the release in a bite ( hold) and may not direct to the person sent for.
I trained dogs as my second profession for 20 years- they would not use a pitt.. The reason- they can not get the dog to release a bite, and can not insure the dog will only go who they are sent for and not bite their handler on the release.. I am sorry- but its true- they will not even use the dogs for police work.
I proudly trained shepherds for police work- this is the same dogs that would go lay with my child and come into the house with other dogs- but they knew who was in control, and I never EVER worried they understood who had control.. You dont have this with this breed- even rejected by alllllllllll the police departments for this reason- THEY CANT CONTROL THE BITE, THE RELEASE of the bite, or who the "suspect is" in the dogs mind...

This is really off base.
I know of alot of SchH titled dogs.
here is a place that uses Pit bulls(but not as biting dog)
http://www.lawdogsusa.org/page1.html
http://www.workingpitbull.com/New%20...2005/dread.htm
http://www.workingpitbull.com/boldogkennel1.html
heres pit bulls doing French ring sport
http://www.rosecitydogs.com/trial080804.html

[elizabethann]

I think if you got a Pit Bull puppy, your husband would feel more confident in how it will grow up acting/reacting to situations (kids, other pets). If you take it to obedience school & socialize it from baby to adulthood (in a positive way), there shouldn't be any problems with it.

The only dog that ever bit me was a stinking poodle (who, by the way, I'll be walking this Thursday afternoon - God help me).

[rutylr]

by the way there are many people killed by dogs that are not pitbulls...I wish people would get their facts straight.

Here are the dogs bites reported so far this year.Like Caseysmom says it's not just pit bulls

http://www.chako.org/dogblog/forums/8/ShowForum.aspx

[borzoimom]

I think if you got a Pit Bull puppy, your husband would feel more confident in how it will grow up acting/reacting to situations (kids, other pets). If you take it to obedience school & socialize it from baby to adulthood (in a positive way), there shouldn't be any problems with it.

The only dog that ever bit me was a stinking poodle (who, by the way, I'll be walking this Thursday afternoon - God help me).

WOULDNT OWN ONE not after seeing what happened to my friend- and- I live outside of the Nations Captital- if they wont use a pitt in their top forces, I wouldnt use one either... BTW_ even DC has a ban on pits.. .. and so do we now and I live in the mountains of virginia..
go ahead- get a pitt.. I dare ya- get the insurance, the renters rights etc or the liscense you need for our counties, etc and you live it.. NOt me.. noooooooooooooo way...

[caseysmom]

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go ahead- get a pitt.. I dare ya- get the insurance, the renters rights etc or the liscense you need for our counties, etc and you live it.. NOt me.. noooooooooooooo way...

You are coming off as a very hateful human being. There are a lot of people that have been members here for a long time that have pits, those pits are loved members of our community. Please don't come here and insult our family members.