Pitbulls ??Aggression, Fact or Not???

[borzoimom]

Ya Im 16 and already know alot more about Pit Bulls then you.
Just because your older dosent mean you know more. Obviously.
Maximus and Ebony are two perfect examples of two amazing PitBulls
Maximus even has a little baby to care for now
Im sure if a Collie attacked someone it would be "oh no they must have
provoked it some how" But if it was a Pitty to you it would right away be thats dog is a prime example of how terrible the breed is put it to sleep.Theres Pit Bulls that are pulled OUT of the ring because they are too freindly and dont want to fight.Even the people ho fight Pitties say they are the sweetest dogs. Do you know how much training and abuse gose into making a fighting dog?
No didnty think so.
Until you know all your facts dont shut this magnifisent breed down.
Oh no look at Maximus mauling his poor baby

** Honey- I agree this previous response to you from another poster was out of line and rude, but please understand- some of us have seen things we wished we had not.. And the consequences can be awful. My friends life is basically ruined.
Anyone should have dog insurance, but especially this one. Maybe a mix is a good idea...

[borzoimom]

by the way- I am looking at the dogs head posture= the dogs jaws are locked, eyes are fixed, ears up and stare intense.. Please move the baby..

[rutylr]

Some good reads on the breed.
http://www.realpitbull.com/
http://www.apbtconformation.com/
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/breedinfo.php

[borzoimom]

those are rescue operations and trying to place dogs... I am sorry- after what my friend that went through, as a skilled trainer, wonderful dog I met many times before, to have this happen, I would never risk it... I flat out cant afford to loose my house, the insurance ( if I could get it) etc on this.. Its just not worth it to me.. Not when soooooooo many breeds dont have this problem or even the little rescue in a pound- just not worth it to me.. There is something that snaps in this breed, and you dont know if its your dog, or whatever, but its not worth the stress to me at all..
** btw- I call everyone honey- I am southern.... ***

[Tollers-n-Dobes]

Borzoimom, Maximus is looking at the child with curiosity. You can tell he is not going to attack him. My crew (who are not Pitbulls, but two happen to be 'dangerous' breeds) all look the exact same way when they're around babies.

Anyway, everything positive that I would've said about the breed has already been said. I love Pitbulls. I've never in my life met a more friendly, outgoing, smiley breed. They're an absolute joy to be around. I've met my fair share of Pitbulls, and only one was aggressive. Pits are very abundant in my neighbourhood and I'm constantly encountering them. I find it extremely sad when pitbull owners are surprised at the fact that I don't run in fear from their dogs when they sniff me, wag their tail at me, look at me, etc. An owner should never have to feel surprised at someone liking their dog. I go through the same thing as amny Pit owners do when I'm out with Morgan or Winston (a Rottweiler and a Doberman). Pitbulls were bred for dog aggression a long time ago, and yes, some are still dog aggressive...but breeders are striving to get rid of that. They were never, ever meant for human aggression. I think pits make one of the best family breeds around. They're truly an awesome breed in all aspects. I don't think anyone should fear them more than they fear a Golden Retriever, a Poodle, a Greyhound, or any other breeds people love for their friendly and/or gentle natures. I've been bitten by dogs before, but those were individual dogs (and no, they were not Pits) whom I blame the bite on either myself or the owner. I never blame an entire breed for one dog's actions.

[borzoimom]

I am only looking at the posture- .. Experience tells me so... And there was no evidence of a "snap" in my friends dog- it just did what it was supposed to do- get into a dog fight- then attacked the lady when she tried to stop it.
We have had 5 pit bull deaths in our county alone in the last year.. A older woman and her little dog, a man attacked by his dogs in his home, a boy at a bus stop etc etc.. They are banned here in the city and have to be registerd by the PD in the whole county area.
I see no "raised eyebrow" on curious- that is not what I am seeing as a ex police dog trainer.. not at all.. that is not what I see.. Please move the baby..

[buttercup132]

get into a dog fight- then attacked the lady when she tried to stop it.

Well obviously shes bound to get bit then.
Just a thought but with all the stupid people in the world today I wouldnt
be surprised if those dogs that "attacked" the people in your community
were from BYB's, people who fight dogs and sell the pups in the paper
and people who didnt care to train them.

[borzoimom]

And one more thing- I trained rotts for years in my second profession, and they are wonderful with good genetics and trained. My only complaint with a rottie is the cancer incidence in the breed.. its pretty high- but that is a "' my heart issue" and not the dog... Cancer is wide spread in the breed..

[Jadapit]

by the way- I am looking at the dogs head posture= the dogs jaws are locked, eyes are fixed, ears up and stare intense.. Please move the baby..

Sheesh! The lady that owns Maximus had him around that baby many, many times the baby is her sisters. Maximus loved the little guy. He is a mix btw. pit bull, lab. Does THAT make you feel any better?

As far as a pit bulls mind snapping that's a total myth. I'm sorry for what happened to your friend but her dogs mind didn't snap. Was the dog in a fenced yard? Did he jump the fence to get to the ladies dog?

[caseysmom]

by the way- I am looking at the dogs head posture= the dogs jaws are locked, eyes are fixed, ears up and stare intense.. Please move the baby..

Sorry but anyone that got that from the picture just doesn't have my respect on this matter...ears up? Are we looking at the same picture?????

And by the way I am 45 so you can't use the age thing with me that you pulled on buttercup.

[borzoimom]

I am southern- we call everyone honey or sugarpie= it is NOT reference of age. I am also 46 years old as well, and would think nothing of it.. sorry If I offeneded.. I am southern... That is how we talk... yes ma'am... btw- many think our accent means we are stupid- we are not... lol..

[borzoimom]

Let me give you an example- we were at a dog show recently to show my two younger ones. This lady had a champion chihuahua, and said to her husband " oh wow!!! take a picture of the big the dog and ( whats his name).. zubin - at over 36 at the shoulder raised his ears ( borzoi for hunt) but I had him on a tight lead.. anyway her husband took a picture with holding the 5 pound chi, and then we stopped. She put the dog down and the chi started dancing around- I saw zubins ears go up ( hunt and chase in borzoi language) and I grabbed him at the muzzle as he tried to take off.. Now mind you- zubin was fine when the dog was held- not so when the dog attempted to run... Its my breed- I know for God sake if they will chase a white plastic bag, anything small will trigger... I accept that- I dont have cats anymore, would love a toy but know that wont work as an accident waiting to happen..
I know my heart - my dogs are my heart and soul but I accept that my dogs will chase- including bears... ( no kidding) if it runs... This is the same thing here only more serious= these dogs mame, and I would rather not worry when a dog i had caused greatttttttttt pain or death.. I just have to keep my big guys from chasing bags- this COULD BE a human life or someones treasured pet.
We had 5 deaths in this county with trained pitts even therapy dogs.. I am sorry= the breeds are past their point of usefulness..
Now we have 45 dogs in our local shelter- please adopt one ... PLEASE...