Pitbulls ??Aggression, Fact or Not???

**dogluver4life** · 10-31-2006, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Love That Collie

Jealousy is an ugly thing...
Have a Happy Halloween.....
My dogs and I are going Trick or Treating with the neighborhood kids and my daughter.

**Love That Collie** · 11-01-2006, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by dogluver4life

Jealousy is an ugly thing...
Have a Happy Halloween.....
My dogs and I are going Trick or Treating with the neighborhood kids and my daughter.

Prayers be with you..............

**buttercup132** · 11-01-2006, 09:03 PM

Sorry, the fact of the matter is that PIT bulls were bred to fight in PITS - hence the name.

Suggestion , do more research thats not true at all.

LovethatCollie everyone on PT knows how you feel about Pit Bulls we dont
need your sarcasum here nor do we want it. Im pretty sure OP asked for
POSITIVE outlooks on pits so I think that excludes your thoughts.
I presonally think if you cant love all animals you dont belong on PT.. thats
just my opinion.The only time you come on PT is to put down Pit Bulls.

You are kidding yourself if you believe that. That is not all it "boils" down to.

Yes it is. The breed is a amazing breed. Before all these idiots started
fighting them they looked after the kids and were Americas number
one family dog.Its ALL about the ownership. Prayers for YOU and that
you get the help you need.

I think you have been provided with alot of good advice and sites.
Maybe take your husband to some dog shows and show him how nice
Pitties can be and get him to talk to some handlers and breeders.
Theres also a movie about Pits in the movie stores called "Off the Chain"
It shows how good the breed is

**Jadapit** · 11-02-2006, 10:34 AM

LovethatCollie everyone on PT knows how you feel about Pit Bulls we dont
need your sarcasum here nor do we want it. Im pretty sure OP asked for
POSITIVE outlooks on pits so I think that excludes your thoughts.
I presonally think if you cant love all animals you dont belong on PT.. thats
just my opinion.The only time you come on PT is to put down Pit Bulls.

Very well put buttercup! I was thinking what to post to love that collie you said everything I wanted to. There is a lot of POSITIVE things about pit bulls love that collie is never going to see that IMHO anyway.

**luvofallhorses** · 11-02-2006, 12:07 PM

I'm with you, buttercup and Donna.

love that collie,

you have already said what you wanted to say about pit bulls, there is no need to go on about how you feel about them.

**Heather78418** · 11-02-2006, 01:17 PM

Thank You everyone For the "Positive" thoughts and info. My husband is actually willing to look into puppies that my dads baby is having . His biggest worry was about the kids , but my dad showed him some home videos of us with his registered pit Harley. My husband was blown away. I had forgotten all about those videos.The puppies are due next week so fingers crossed everyone. Thank you all again . I will keep everyone posted.

**rutylr** · 11-02-2006, 01:34 PM

They are a great breed with a shaded back ground.
Yes they did fight them back in the day,but not the way you see them fight today.
UKC use to hold fights and you could obtain titles .There were rules and rarely did a dog die.
We have quite a few APBT living here and know lots of people with children who own this breed.
They are great family pets(not very good watch dogs).

**buttercup132** · 11-02-2006, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Heather78418

Thank You everyone For the "Positive" thoughts and info. My husband is actually willing to look into puppies that my dads baby is having . His biggest worry was about the kids , but my dad showed him some home videos of us with his registered pit Harley. My husband was blown away. I had forgotten all about those videos.The puppies are due next week so fingers crossed everyone. Thank you all again . I will keep everyone posted.

I hope you keep us updated with pictures
Good luck I hope you get a Pittie.

**Love That Collie** · 11-04-2006, 08:49 AM

buttercup.....when you've lived more and seen more than your 16 years
has allowed then lecture.

Most PB owners have their "eyes wide shut" concerning this. Constructive criticism is a virtue and if anyone cannot accept contructive criticism that's the "eyes wide shut" and sarcasm has never been first from me, only when directed at me is it returned.

**borzoimom** · 11-04-2006, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by borzoimom

Well I delayed posting this, but I will. I am not looking for a reply just something for you to consider..
I have a dear friend that lives in the same county as I that was a skilled trainer. She had lots of titles in obedience, therapy dogs, showed etc. Well she got this pit puppy from a excellent show kennel ( not fighting kennel- a real breeder..) For over a year, the dog ( female spayed) excelled in anything she taught the dog. I dont care for pits, but I must admit, the dog was amazing. Calm quiet docile, and obedient. Got her CD in just the 3 trials required, quickly went to CDX..
One day, she was out in the yard working when this lady walked by with another spayed female dog. Just walking along.. No big deal.. When her dog went after the the womans dog and when the woman tried to rescue her dog from the attack, she was attacked as well.. They did a autopsy on her dog, as it was forced to be put down for the attack, found nothing in the brain to indicate a illness or nothing.
The result- my friend is in jail for the attack. She was sued by the lady that her dog attacked, and because she couldnt work- she lost her house to forclosure.. Her life is ruined at this stage, she is still in jail, and depressed and on suicide watch.
I never EVER would have thought for a second her dog was capable of this- but since then, our county has put a ban on pit bulls in the town limits and if you have one in the county it has to be registered with the police department..
I think the problem here is the denial in the club of the breeds. These breeds were bred for centeries for one reason- to attack and mame another dog. The clubs denial in trying to do something = like temperment testing and maybe even trying to breed to more docile dogs is the source. ( this is just my opinion..) but until the breed clubs ( american staffy etc) accept that there is a problem, nothing is going to be done.
Even the bull dog, meant originally to bait bulls, has made the change to a docile sweet loving dog.. The same, IN my opinion, needs to take place here as well.
This dear friend of mine, skilled trainer, proof in the pudding of training her dogs successfully.. all she has said week after week after week- was " I thought I was the one person that could handle this breed.."

While I agree we dont need the sarcasium- I think anyone needs to re read this- its true.. People need to understand- this trait can show up, out of no where and for little reason.. Please understand what you are getting into here...***** AND MAKE SURE you have insurance for liablity with the dog..***

**buttercup132** · 11-04-2006, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Love That Collie

buttercup.....when you've lived more and seen more than your 16 years
has allowed then lecture.

Most PB owners have their "eyes wide shut" concerning this. Constructive criticism is a virtue and if anyone cannot accept contructive criticism that's the "eyes wide shut" and sarcasm has never been first from me, only when directed at me is it returned.

Ya Im 16 and already know alot more about Pit Bulls then you.
Just because your older dosent mean you know more. Obviously.
Maximus and Ebony are two perfect examples of two amazing PitBulls
Maximus even has a little baby to care for now
Im sure if a Collie attacked someone it would be "oh no they must have
provoked it some how" But if it was a Pitty to you it would right away be thats dog is a prime example of how terrible the breed is put it to sleep.Theres Pit Bulls that are pulled OUT of the ring because they are too freindly and dont want to fight.Even the people ho fight Pitties say they are the sweetest dogs. Do you know how much training and abuse gose into making a fighting dog?
No didnty think so.
Until you know all your facts dont shut this magnifisent breed down.

Oh no look at Maximus mauling his poor baby

**Reachoutrescue** · 11-04-2006, 03:03 PM

I own a pit mix...he is the sweetest thing ever! Tell your hubby to check out the internet and he will see...as long as you raise them to be nice, they are nice. They are one of the best breeds out there. Good luck.

**borzoimom** · 11-04-2006, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by buttercup132

Ya Im 16 and already know alot more about Pit Bulls then you.
Just because your older dosent mean you know more. Obviously.
Maximus and Ebony are two perfect examples of two amazing PitBulls
Maximus even has a little baby to care for now
Im sure if a Collie attacked someone it would be "oh no they must have
provoked it some how" But if it was a Pitty to you it would right away be thats dog is a prime example of how terrible the breed is put it to sleep.Theres Pit Bulls that are pulled OUT of the ring because they are too freindly and dont want to fight.Even the people ho fight Pitties say they are the sweetest dogs. Do you know how much training and abuse gose into making a fighting dog?
No didnty think so.
Until you know all your facts dont shut this magnifisent breed down.
Oh no look at Maximus mauling his poor baby

** Honey- I agree this previous response to you from another poster was out of line and rude, but please understand- some of us have seen things we wished we had not.. And the consequences can be awful. My friends life is basically ruined.
Anyone should have dog insurance, but especially this one. Maybe a mix is a good idea...