Staffy pup???

[critter crazy]

I appologize for being rude, if I was. But you must agree that your first post was very vague, and sounded like someone who knew nothing about breeding? We are just very protective of animals, and hate to see people breeding dogs for no reason(not saying you are) I would like to hear more about you and your dogs. we love pictures here, so dont be afraid to post any!

[mydogflick]

luckies for me I am also a sucker for disabled or injured animals. Just ask my one eyed shitzu lol. but I agree totally with what you are saying its like the people who buy the baby chimps and moon bears from the overseas markets because they feel sorry for them it just incourages the hunters and poachers to go and get more. Sometimes it takes more courage and is better for the animals as a breed just to walk away

[BC_MoM]

Did you know it's illegal to give health advice over the internet for animals? Go to a vet.

I'm not sure if this applies to all breeds, but all females should be bred to males that are smaller than them.

I don't agree with you breeding this female at all. As you can see, a lot of people on here do not as well.

There's no need to carry on this line - regardless whether it has no floors - just because your grandfather brought the line over.

[buttercup132]

flatcoat lover do you not agree with any breeding? And if not wont that just totally wipe out all breeds? I am not exactly sure what I am doing wrong here? Our dogs are all very loved and looked after. We have never sold a puppy to anyone nor do we ever plan to. Our dogs are KCC registered and have no floors ie skin conditions eye problems or hip problems and our girl is always closely monitered by our bet when she is pregnant. I have read all the proper text books and listened to vets and show breeders opinions on how to breed and the reasons behind single births and puppy size and they vary greatly. I was just after a laymans opinion as I tend to value hands on experience and peoples varied opinions as much as those written and learnt from textbooks.

I think it makes it A LITTLE better if your not selling them
and trying to make money off them. But I dont get WHY your breeding
If you guys want puppies why cant you adopt from a shelter? There are
TONS of Staffy puppies that need adopting and a loving home and if
evryone in your family takes puppies from your breeding I think it would help the over population of Staffy's alot.

[mydogflick]

Im not entirelly sure how to post pictures on here if anyone could tell me then I would be more than happy to show of our babies and our newest BIG baby

[Flatcoatluver]

flatcoat lover do you not agree with any breeding?

Yes I do, I agree with breeding that is responsible. I work for a person who has bred responsibly and back her 100 percent. I show dogs, and I know people who breed responsibly. I agree with wolfsoul, I think she is a very responsible breeder (sorry to put you in this thread Jorden). But from what I have read from this thread I don't think your a responsible breeder. Now I am trying not to judge, but this is hard for me to not reply because I have seen plenty of dogs being pts because their is not enough homes beacause of irresponsible breeders.

[mydogflick]

again BC MOm I ask what is it that you dont agree with and who SHOULD be breeding in your opinion???

[Suki Wingy]

I know you didn't ask me but who SHOULD be breeding are people who
a. Have done all the health tests for their breed
b. Have a goal to better your stock in conformation, working ability, or health
c. Take good care of their dogs

What I think the other people replying in this thread are trying to get at is b.

And to post pictures, go to www.photobucket.com and register for a free account. Upload your pics and resize them to a decent size. Copy the box that starts with [img] and paste it on here.

[luckies4me]

Does that mean just because a dog has a good show career or descendents who have done well they should automatically be bred? What ever happened to breeding for temperament and health? I'm sorry but I would NEVER support a breeder who breeds just for show. They would have to prove to me that the parents are genetically sound as well as mentally sound in order to convince me to purchase a puppy. It's not only about looks. This is why so many breeders continue to chop their dogs tails off and cut their ears back so short it looks like they have none!

She has stated her dog has good lines, hence the two brothers being shown etc. She chooses not to show because it just isn't her thing. Breeding a good quality animal has more than one component. Genetics, temperament, and health. You either get all three or you get nothing, period. I see no reason why she cannot continue to improve upon the line her grand father created so many years ago if she is keeping tract of the lines (hence she knows the genetics), the animals recieve vet care, and she has done her research. After all, how do you think all of these breeds came about in the first place? Sheesh!

[mydogflick]

flatrcoat lover could you please tell me what you think it is that I am not doing responsibly I am honestly interested to know thankyou

[luckies4me]

I know you didn't ask me but who SHOULD be breeding are people who
a. Have done all the health tests for their breed
b. Have a goal to better your stock in conformation, working ability, or health
c. Take good care of their dogs

What I think the other people replying in this thread are trying to get at is b.

I guess temperament gets thrown right out the window then! How very sad.

[Tollers-n-Dobes]

In my opinion, the only people who should be breeding are the people out there to better a breed. They breed to the standard and breed not only for appearance, but for temperament, health, and working ability also (IMO, appearance should be alst on the list...it is important, but not as important as the other two). They health test for any possible problem the dog may have. They show their dog in something. Be it conformation shows, working trials, etc. all in an effort to evaluate who is of breeding quality and who is not. A responsible breeder will only breed a dog to another dog if they think those two dogs are going to be an improvement to the breed.

Not to be rude, but you don't seem like a responsible breeder at all to me. You seem to be breeding just to have a new addition to your family because you/your family happened to like your Grandparent's dog. Everyone else has already said anything that I would've said, so I'm not going to go into anymore detail. I have no answer to your original quation, as I'm not a breeder and have no idea why things like that happen.

[Suki Wingy]

temperament is a given! I'm sorry, I thought it was so obvious it didn't need to be said. I'm hurt. Maybe you want to check out my website. http://www.freewebs.com/orinocodals/about.html

[buttercup132]

Does that mean just because a dog has a good show career or descendents who have done well they should automatically be bred? What ever happened to breeding for temperament and health? I'm sorry but I would NEVER support a breeder who breeds just for show.

I dont think that at all. Just because a dog has won titles dosent mean it should automatically be bred. BUT if you wanted to breed you dog I think it should have won some titles and be shown. Wich to me includes a good temperment and health.
Or a working dogs. Like a champion herding Border Collie.

[luckies4me]

temperament is a given! I'm sorry, I thought it was so obvious it didn't need to be said. I'm hurt. Maybe you want to check out my website. http://www.freewebs.com/orinocodals/about.html

Obviously not, as it wasn't mentioned. No need to be hurt. It's a comment and nothing more.