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    Quote Originally Posted by buttercup132
    I'm talking about the one in my signature.
    The KITTEN. Princess isnt really fully mine she lives at my grandmas
    Ya and I got her when I was like 9 from a fair.But I didnt know any better and I'll admitt I probly would even now. I dont think I could leave a bunch of sick kittens at a fair where who knows what could happen to them. People could take them for bait for dog fighting seeing as they were free.
    I learned a very valuable (why can't I spell today?) lesson not too long ago when the breeder I got Frankie and Halfy from (my disabled doxies) came to me yet again to ask if I would take any of her deformed puppies. This time I said NO! No way! I cannot take her pups everytime something goes wrong. By me taking a pup yet again would just encourage her to breed one more time, because you know, Cass will just take the deformed ones home. She has since got the male fix and hopefully will fix the female soon as well. This is why I never get dogs or cats from a petshop, they are either abandoned at my work or found somewhere. Then I take them home and fix them all up.
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    luckies for me I am also a sucker for disabled or injured animals. Just ask my one eyed shitzu lol. but I agree totally with what you are saying its like the people who buy the baby chimps and moon bears from the overseas markets because they feel sorry for them it just incourages the hunters and poachers to go and get more. Sometimes it takes more courage and is better for the animals as a breed just to walk away

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    Im not entirelly sure how to post pictures on here if anyone could tell me then I would be more than happy to show of our babies and our newest BIG baby

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    again BC MOm I ask what is it that you dont agree with and who SHOULD be breeding in your opinion???

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    I know you didn't ask me but who SHOULD be breeding are people who
    a. Have done all the health tests for their breed
    b. Have a goal to better your stock in conformation, working ability, or health
    c. Take good care of their dogs

    What I think the other people replying in this thread are trying to get at is b.

    And to post pictures, go to www.photobucket.com and register for a free account. Upload your pics and resize them to a decent size. Copy the box that starts with [img] and paste it on here.

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    flatrcoat lover could you please tell me what you think it is that I am not doing responsibly I am honestly interested to know thankyou

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    Does that mean just because a dog has a good show career or descendents who have done well they should automatically be bred? What ever happened to breeding for temperament and health? I'm sorry but I would NEVER support a breeder who breeds just for show.
    I dont think that at all. Just because a dog has won titles dosent mean it should automatically be bred. BUT if you wanted to breed you dog I think it should have won some titles and be shown. Wich to me includes a good temperment and health.
    Or a working dogs. Like a champion herding Border Collie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suki Wingy
    I know you didn't ask me but who SHOULD be breeding are people who
    a. Have done all the health tests for their breed
    b. Have a goal to better your stock in conformation, working ability, or health
    c. Take good care of their dogs

    What I think the other people replying in this thread are trying to get at is b.
    I guess temperament gets thrown right out the window then! How very sad.
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    temperament is a given! I'm sorry, I thought it was so obvious it didn't need to be said. I'm hurt. Maybe you want to check out my website. http://www.freewebs.com/orinocodals/about.html

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    Does that mean just because a dog has a good show career or descendents who have done well they should automatically be bred? What ever happened to breeding for temperament and health? I'm sorry but I would NEVER support a breeder who breeds just for show. They would have to prove to me that the parents are genetically sound as well as mentally sound in order to convince me to purchase a puppy. It's not only about looks. This is why so many breeders continue to chop their dogs tails off and cut their ears back so short it looks like they have none!

    She has stated her dog has good lines, hence the two brothers being shown etc. She chooses not to show because it just isn't her thing. Breeding a good quality animal has more than one component. Genetics, temperament, and health. You either get all three or you get nothing, period. I see no reason why she cannot continue to improve upon the line her grand father created so many years ago if she is keeping tract of the lines (hence she knows the genetics), the animals recieve vet care, and she has done her research. After all, how do you think all of these breeds came about in the first place? Sheesh!
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    In my opinion, the only people who should be breeding are the people out there to better a breed. They breed to the standard and breed not only for appearance, but for temperament, health, and working ability also (IMO, appearance should be alst on the list...it is important, but not as important as the other two). They health test for any possible problem the dog may have. They show their dog in something. Be it conformation shows, working trials, etc. all in an effort to evaluate who is of breeding quality and who is not. A responsible breeder will only breed a dog to another dog if they think those two dogs are going to be an improvement to the breed.

    Not to be rude, but you don't seem like a responsible breeder at all to me. You seem to be breeding just to have a new addition to your family because you/your family happened to like your Grandparent's dog. Everyone else has already said anything that I would've said, so I'm not going to go into anymore detail. I have no answer to your original quation, as I'm not a breeder and have no idea why things like that happen.

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    At first I was getting offended by some of these posts and trying to defend myself and my reasons for what I do. How silly of me I should of realised that we do breed our dogs for temperment over chest bredth or acheiving a blue ribbon in a show. We have bred for health and temperament and we are really happy with our well loved and cherished pets. thankyou for those who have offered helpful opinions and cheery attitudes for those who flet they had to put down and attack I am terribly sorry that you are having a bad day and I do hope it gets better thankyou

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    Quote Originally Posted by mydogflick
    again BC MOm I ask what is it that you dont agree with and who SHOULD be breeding in your opinion???
    I don't agree with people just breeding a pet because they love it and think it has a good disposition. I don't agree with breeding to carry on a line.

    I agree with breeders who breed RESPONSIBLY, for the best of the breed, are out there in the world showing, sporting their animals, people who have homes lined up for most of the pups before they are born, etc.


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    Did you know it's illegal to give health advice over the internet for animals? Go to a vet.

    I'm not sure if this applies to all breeds, but all females should be bred to males that are smaller than them.

    I don't agree with you breeding this female at all. As you can see, a lot of people on here do not as well.

    There's no need to carry on this line - regardless whether it has no floors - just because your grandfather brought the line over.


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