dangerous game

[sanford8916]

Our beagle Chase was a good at getting out of the fence, so we got the pre-made dog kennel, ours is pretty big, like 10feet by 10 feet and we have in on a cemment slab, we also ended up zip striping all the endges of the chain link to the botton pole so she couldn't squeeze though them! She only needed to be in there when we were gone. Good luck!

[Husky15]

I'd say get a heavy duty chain, horse lead rope, or a wire rope. They all will hold much more force then your dog can dish out. We once had a Lab/Golden Retriever mix that liked to chase cars. One time she ran all the way up the highway because she would always break free of her collar/leash so I kinda know your situation. But then we got the right kind that would hold her. We had to give her up before our move because where we were moving doesn't allow dogs (although you come here and everybody owns one) and the new owner (who was my mom's friend) stupidly let her loose in their yard even though my mom told her that she chased cars and not to let her loose, and she got hit by one and died. Just thinking about it makes me want to cry. Princess was the best dog anyone could have. So please, don't let this happen.

[Pam]

He's an outside dog

[lady_bug_mistress]

hehehe...our boxer et GSD both sit on the couch et watch the kids get on the bus every morning. one morning the dogs were so distressed that their playmates were leaving them, that the GSD actually opened the screen door et the boxer got on the bus et sat with one of my kids to go to school with them! needless to say, the bus driver wasnt amused even though the kids were et we now have to keep the screen door locked. those 2 dogs are like the modern "Bonnie et Clyde" i swear!

[jhadaway]

A long run line (nylon covered cable made for that purpose) and a 2-3 foot
chain with a loop gives him the freedom of running up and down without
the constraint of being chained...but you need to be sure that it is
anchored up high enough so that he can't get tangles and the chain is
always above him (like when he is walked)...it's just a bad habit and habits
can be broken...is there anything he is afraid of or avoids? Put in in
front of your car for a while and see what his reaction is...there must be
something that attracts him to the front of the cars...he should not be
allowed to chase cars either...that can end up a problem also...good luck

[Freedom]

In addition to all the ideas of ties and fences, why not try to stop his love of chasing and racing cars?

All 3 dogs we had when I was growing up, my Dad taught them to run AWAY from moving cars. He went out in the yard with the dog and a spare tire. PGet one with NO rim in it. Roll the tire at the dog. TRY to hit him. I know, it sounds terrible. I was a young girl and I used to run in the house crying to mom. When I was older, I asked Dad about it. He said the tire never had much momentum or power behind it from his roll. If it hit the pup, it was just going to stop and fall over. besides, Dad said, if it missed the pup, HE didn't want to be running all over the yard to catch up with it and try again!

The dog / pup may have a sore spot for a few hours, or a day (wonder if they turn black and blue under all that fur?), but it was just a slight bruise, it resolved quicky, and the dog learned the "hard" way to avoid vehicles.

Of course, the hardest way to learn may be fatal!

Good luck with you dog!

[JuniorxMyxLove]

My dog did the exact same thing, and we were terrified she would get hit, so we got an electric fence. theres no fence, but they install a wire thing underground. your dog gets a collar and when they cross the wire, they get shocked. it sounds mean, but its better then having your dog get killed! it really works, and you don't have to chain up anything!

[DragonH]

sorry, but I think if the dog can break a chain, he can break a wire tie-out.

[Twisterdog]

Agreed.

[sumbirdy]

Agreed.

There is nothing wrong with having outside dogs if they have adequate shelter and plenty of food, water, and attention. Which my dogs have all of these. Our house is way too small to bring in 17 dogs and anyway most of them don't like to be inside. We bring in the dogs that like to be inside on occasions and starting this winter we are bringing in our 9 year old dog (who has lived outside all her life) There is absoulutely nothing wrong with them being outside and if you knew my dogs and their personalities you would understand and agree too. They don't want to be anywhere else.

[areias]

Maybe this question has been asked before, but why do you have 17 dogs? And especially why do you have them if they are all outside?

It must get expensive with vet visits, heartguard, etc. I already wish I didn't have my heartguard bill, for three medium sized dogs.

[sumbirdy]

Maybe this question has been asked before, but why do you have 17 dogs? And especially why do you have them if they are all outside?

It must get expensive with vet visits, heartguard, etc. I already wish I didn't have my heartguard bill, for three medium sized dogs.

We have 17 dogs because mom has a habit of picking up strays. The vet bills are very expensive but fortunately we have a vet that lets us make payments. About them being outside-well, they like it there. They would rather be outside more than anywhere else. Tiny, Nitis, and Lacy stay inside. Whino, Daphney and Uno are the only outside dogs that like to come in so they come in regularly. So not ALL of them are outside. Sprinkles comes in at night because she is older (almost 9) and gets cold easily but she really hates it.

[lwds]

There is nothing wrong with having outside dogs if they have adequate shelter and plenty of food, water, and attention.

What about confinement? Secure fencing/kennels?

[Argranade]

Maybe Sumbirdy feels if her dogs want to stay outside then they can, all animals started out wild and in freedom in the begining of time, when I go to native resurves there are so many dogs outside running around ... they have a place to sleep at night ... I dunno but for some reason it does not bother me.

If the dog did not have lots of fur then it would HAVE to live in the house.

Yes I do belive if there's no way to secure them they should be adopted out so they don't get hit by cars but it's not hard at all to buil a simple fence this way Sumbirdy will know all the dogs are safe and secure.

At least there not at a pound and they have a home where they can get food and water and won't have a chance of being killed by being stray or getting into a fight with other nabour hood dogs.

A fence is a realy good option Sumbirdy, it would keep the dogs from getting hit of course.

I know you have a great feeling for these dogs and want to help them as much as you can.

Good luck!

[cyber-sibes]

Instead of a chain, use a wire rope tie out. They are readily available, and hold many times more force than a dog can put out.

http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...p?pn=100349311


just a sample of a wire rope run.

Unfortunately the wire ropes aren't foolproof. Star has broken 2 of them and Sherman quickly chews them till they frazzle. My experience is that only 6' kennel fencing will keep outdoor dogs safe (provided they don't climb or dig out, or can jump over that height). With as many outdoor dogs as you say you have, I'm really surprised you don't have a fenced kennel. How do the rest of the dogs stay in the yard? Are they all tied?