In desperate need of advice

**bluebird** · 10-27-2006, 03:47 PM

It's just a list of foods manufactured by Nutro. I posted it to make the point that when claims are made that Nutro is a horrible food; no one ever bothers to mention which of their many foods they're referring to. They just say Nutro in general which is misleading to say the least!

Maybe someone can help me out here. My search engines don't seem to be turning up even one source of factual information about a Nutro recall.

**Tollers-n-Dobes** · 10-27-2006, 04:40 PM

Bluebird, I'm just going by what I was told by the company. I'm not sure what products of their's were affected, and I never said that Nutro was absolutely awful for your dogs. I do know that the Natural Choice Lamb & Rice, aswell as the Chicken, Rice, and Oatmeal ones were changed. Not sure of the others. Why feed it anyway though when there are much better options for around the same price or cheaper? The only reason I see is if there are absolutely no stores around someone who sold good food. Anyway, I'm sick of going on and on about foods all the time so that's all I'm going to say... everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Perhaps I should've worded my first post a bit better.

Anyway, back on topic. Jenny will be just fine if you fast her! Winston's favourite thing to do is eat and I've fasted him a few times before. He survived and didn't really seem to notice. Dogs do need to be fased sometimes...in fact, it's also good for humans to fast occasionally.

**Vela** · 10-27-2006, 04:53 PM

She probably wont LIKE fasting, but if you ignore her when she whines, she will give up. Mine don't like missing meals etiher, but if it means there is a chance your mother would get rid of her because she is throwing up, you really need to figure out why and if it means one day without food, she will be through it just fine.

**bluebird** · 10-27-2006, 06:42 PM

[QUOTE=GreyhoundGirl]No... I didn't think of that..... Hmmmm..... For tonight We will skip the bisquit and cheww ezz, we'll see how that goes, if not I'll *attempt the fasting.

Knowing Jenny, it won't work, but than at least you guys won't all be angry that I'm "Jepordizing" my dogs health by not trying. I'm telling you now... It won't work, she'd die before she'd skip a meal.

I want you to know, I DO appreciate it.

Hmmmmmm! Who controls the dogfood bag, you or Jenny? Take an extra run with her to take her mind off the food. Trust me, it will hurt you more than it does Jenny for her to skip a meal!

It might do her a world of good and then who will be "mad" at you? You will, for not doing it sooner, that's who!

It will be great if you discover it was the chew-eeze instead of the food.

**bluebird** · 10-27-2006, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Orangutango

Bluebird, I'm just going by what I was told by the company. I'm not sure what products of their's were affected, and I never said that Nutro was absolutely awful for your dogs. I do know that the Natural Choice Lamb & Rice, aswell as the Chicken, Rice, and Oatmeal ones were changed. Not sure of the others. Why feed it anyway though when there are much better options for around the same price or cheaper? The only reason I see is if there are absolutely no stores around someone who sold good food. Anyway, I'm sick of going on and on about foods all the time so that's all I'm going to say... everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Perhaps I should've worded my first post a bit better.

Anyway, back on topic. Jenny will be just fine if you fast her! Winston's favourite thing to do is eat and I've fasted him a few times before. He survived and didn't really seem to notice. Dogs do need to be fased sometimes...in fact, it's also good for humans to fast occasionally.

I'm just as tired of these pointless dog food debates as everyone else. My comments were not meant to be taken personally, but in general. Sorry if it came off as personal.

**Giselle** · 10-27-2006, 07:32 PM

You know... I'm really not surprised at your reaction, GreyhoundGirl. I'm not trying to be mean, but we've all given you valid advice and you blow it off. You don't even answer our questions. Have you even searched for any of the brands near you? Have you even searched on Google for any of the brands mentioned? Chances are, you'll ignore this post, too, so why even try?

Point is: FAST HER. She WILL NOT die unless she has an underlying medical illness in which you should have addressed already. So FAST HER.

And in case you completely missed my first post, go back and read it because it sounds like you're still in your first state of mind and I don't want your dog to die from GDV (bloat!).

To be brutally honest, GreyhoundGirl, I'm starting to smell something fishy again.

**Zippy** · 10-28-2006, 10:57 AM

Greyhoundgirl:maybe what you posted in genaral about your brother being mean to Jenny and peeing in her water dish has something to do with her health problems.If she drank any of that contaminated water she would be sick.Who knows what your brother feed her when you aren't there.If he is doing some of the things you said in general I wouldn't put it past him to feed her stuff that is bad for dogs.
P.S.the thread I am talking about is Petco is where the pets go???-vent in general

**GreyhoundGirl** · 10-29-2006, 06:21 PM

She didn't have supper last night... Or breakfast this morning. And I feel SO awful. Like a parent who sent her child to bed with out supper, than no breakfast and lunch the next day either. It makes me feel worse to know that eating is the highlight of her day.

She's had her supper now. Overnight she didn't hurl, but how could she, she had nothing to hurl. I'm starting to think fasting her wasn't a such good idea after all. Although I see now it worked, for that, I thank you all. (but that doesn't make me feel much better about it)

Tommarow I'll tell you if she hurls tommarow morning.

I was quite shocked though when she ran the usualy hour-and-a-half today. I didn't think she'd have it in her. She doesn't have much fat to keep her going.

Anyways, hope that answered all your questions. I'll keep you posted.

P.S. As I have mentioned, she doesn't drink the pee.

**Love That Collie** · 10-29-2006, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by GreyhoundGirl

She didn't have supper last night... Or breakfast this morning. And I feel SO awful. Like a parent who sent her child to bed with out supper, than no breakfast and lunch the next day either. It makes me feel worse to know that eating is the highlight of her day.

She's had her supper now. Overnight she didn't hurl, but how could she, she had nothing to hurl. I'm starting to think fasting her wasn't a such good idea after all. Although I see now it worked, for that, I thank you all. (but that doesn't make me feel much better about it)

Tommarow I'll tell you if she hurls tommarow morning.

I was quite shocked though when she ran the usualy hour-and-a-half today. I didn't think she'd have it in her. She doesn't have much fat to keep her going.

Anyways, hope that answered all your questions. I'll keep you posted.

P.S. As I have mentioned, she doesn't drink the pee.

Fasting isn't a bad thing when tummies are upset. When a puppy/dog has a surgery you cannot give them anything hours prior to the surgery. And just because she didn't have her supper last night doesn't mean she didn't have anything in her stomach. If you feed kibble it usually takes 12 hours or more for it to go through. And just because she threw up doesn't mean she threw up all of the contents of her stomach.

Don't feel bad about this you aren't abusing her.

**GreyhoundGirl** · 10-29-2006, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Love That Collie

Don't feel bad about this you aren't abusing her.

Funny, that's the opposite thing everyone else is saying....

**borzoimom** · 10-30-2006, 06:04 AM

Grayhound- I think its your food. I mean, some foods just dont work well with all dogs. I think you said you were feeding nutro. Try bil jac, or solid gold, or royal canin, uhhhhhh.. The bil jac turns to mush really quick. I wouldnt think it would make gas in the stomach. Just get a little bag. Just try it. If she hs a problem with Bil Jac, it could be because of a sensitivity to chicken. The next one you try, try turkey and rice, or lamb and rice..
Keep us posted. I am concerned about kibbles that swell in a deep chested dog. After all these years of having breeds with a deep chest, that is sort of a knee jerk reaction with me as I am sure you can understand.

**GreyhoundGirl** · 10-30-2006, 01:51 PM

She didn't hurl this morning. She hasn't since Thursday.

I think I will change her food. I don't know what to do with the food I've bought her already, the bag is already open. My parents would never let me give it away... Hmmm. I'll have to think about what to do with the food.

**borzoimom** · 10-30-2006, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by GreyhoundGirl

She didn't hurl this morning. She hasn't since Thursday.

I think I will change her food. I don't know what to do with the food I've bought her already, the bag is already open. My parents would never let me give it away... Hmmm. I'll have to think about what to do with the food.

You should be able to return it. Most have a money back guarrentee. Try bil jac first, or a turkey and rice or lamb and rice product. I listed several on the above post.

**Love That Collie** · 10-30-2006, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by GreyhoundGirl

Funny, that's the opposite thing everyone else is saying....

What??? I think you better read what I said again.
Fasting when tummies are upset is NOT a bad thing. (whew)
And fasting when this happens is NOT abusive. If that were
the case then most of the vets would be up on "charges" because
most of the time, depending on what's wrong, when throwing up occurs they
will tell you to withhold for 24 hrs. Maybe the vet is where your dog should be!

**bluebird** · 10-31-2006, 12:02 AM

She shouldn't be put back on the chew-eze, biscuits and dog food in the same day. If you do and she starts vomiting again you'll have to begin all over from scratch.

It would be wise to leave the biscuit and chew-eze out of the picture for a few more days and see what happens. If she's doing okay, after a few days try a biscuit. If she does okay on the food and the biscuit, you'll know it was the chew eze.

There's little doubt, the fasting hurt you much more than it did her!