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**Danegirl2208** · 10-29-2006, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by Orangutango

A google search can prove much, in my opinion. A friend of mine has a friend who used to breed Flat Coats, and her kennel name doesn't come up at all on a search. I don't know about the rest of PT, but I'm truly sick of people trying to prove others wrong constantly and just being ignorant about it. Perhaps there really is no breeder by the name of Stalinwalt, but you never truly know for sure. There isn't any need to jump to conclusions constantly and accuse someone of something just because one or two people think something is wrong.

Anyway, Borzoimom, your Belgians were beautiful. Thanks for sharing the pictures.

i agree with you 100%...i left another forum that i was active on for over year because of things like this..its ridiculous..

they were gorgeous Borzoimom!

**wolfsoul** · 10-29-2006, 07:31 PM

Stalenwalt may not show up, but if you look at the end of the name, it says De Bruge (De Bruges) which was an old kennel in Europe that generally bred malinois and working line groenendael. Either this dog was imported back from De Bruges (which I do believe she mentioned in one of her posts), or it was registered before it's ownership fell through. De Bruges WAS an actual kennel.

**Giselle** · 10-29-2006, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by wolfsoul

Stalenwalt may not show up, but if you look at the end of the name, it says De Bruge (De Bruges) which was an old kennel in Europe that generally bred malinois and working line groenendael. Either this dog was imported back from De Bruges (which I do believe she mentioned in one of her posts), or it was registered before it's ownership fell through. De Bruges WAS an actual kennel.

Thank you for the explanation. That's all I was looking for. After seeing so many frauds, it's instinct to be a little tentative.

**wolfsoul** · 10-29-2006, 08:15 PM

Btw -- I used the search dogs option on the AKC website. Not every kennel shows up. Johnsondale was the TOP kennel in North America for the longest time -- they had the #1 groenendael stud in North America, his sister was the #1 Belgian EVERYTHING, the first to do this and that and so on -- yet not a single one of their dogs comes up.

**Mikki** · 10-29-2006, 08:28 PM

wolfsoul would you please clarify what "or it was registered before it's ownership fell through" means? That's a dogspeak I'm not familiar with.

**Danegirl2208** · 10-29-2006, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Mikki

wolfsoul would you please clarify what "or it was registered before it's ownership fell through" means? That's a dogspeak I'm not familiar with.

just a question here Mikki..why do you find it necessary to keep pounding these people with questions? its ridiculous really

**Mikki** · 10-29-2006, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Danegirl2208

just a question here Mikki..why do you find it necessary to keep pounding these people with questions? its ridiculous really

How is anyone supposed to learn anything if they don't ask questions?

**wolfsoul** · 10-29-2006, 08:41 PM

Sorry I just meant that it's full name was registered, but then the owner decided not to get the pup or something -- which is one reason that would explain the name ending in another kennel name.

For instance, if I decided to get a dog from another kennel, I would have them register the dog's name as what they want, and have them end it in "of Attra Dea," "O'AttraDea," etc etc -- and then I may decide not to keep the puppy. If they don't change it within 60 days of registration than it would remain as is. Which is just one reason a dog under her kennel name, Beckonridge, may end in another kennel name, Bruges.

Hope I explained that ok lol. I see it happen all the time -- other kennels often have dogs whose names end in other kennel names -- just because that pup was meant to go to another kennel but they backed out.

**Mikki** · 10-29-2006, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by wolfsoul

Sorry I just meant that it's full name was registered, but then the owner decided not to get the pup or something -- which is one reason that would explain the name ending in another kennel name.

For instance, if I decided to get a dog from another kennel, I would have them register the dog's name as what they want, and have them end it in "of Attra Dea," "O'AttraDea," etc etc -- and then I may decide not to keep the puppy. If they don't change it within 60 days of registration than it would remain as is. Which is just one reason a dog under her kennel name, Beckonridge, may end in another kennel name, Bruges.

Hope I explained that ok lol. I see it happen all the time -- other kennels often have dogs whose names end in other kennel names -- just because that pup was meant to go to another kennel but they backed out.

Thank you!

**BC_MoM** · 10-29-2006, 10:14 PM

Mikki, you sound like a very lonely person. Do you not have anything better to do than to waste your days, doubting humanity? Do us all a favour, most importantly yourself, and join some sort of social activity in your community so you have a chance to develop proper social skills and appropriate manners.

borzoimom, both dogs are absolutely STUNNING!

**borzoimom** · 10-30-2006, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by wolfsoul

Stalenwalt may not show up, but if you look at the end of the name, it says De Bruge (De Bruges) which was an old kennel in Europe that generally bred malinois and working line groenendael. Either this dog was imported back from De Bruges (which I do believe she mentioned in one of her posts), or it was registered before it's ownership fell through. De Bruges WAS an actual kennel.

Yes she was an import. Thats why she didnt have my kennel name on it. She has the importers name. YOu can, since you have the same breed, also see the quality in her.. I still think it has something to do with her death, and notification as required by the AKC. She never produced puppies, Born 20 years ago, and died a few years back. Also- she wasnt born in the US.
I also agree with danegirl. I left another forum for such stupidity. And as I stated to Karen, I would love to present documentation to proof and show how petty these responses got- but I dont know who they are.. Not willing to give out my address as it would be on papers either. As hostile as this post turned, How do I know this poster is not a stalker or something..
Thank you all for you wonderful words on her. I wish I had an adult picture on "Clipper" but I dont have all my photos anymore as they they lost and destroyed by my ex.