to wolfsoul

[TFTpwnsYou]

Once more and then I'm done with this topic. Any dog, not just champions or dogs that are special in some way, but even pets, that have been registered with AKC in the last 30 years is listed at the AKC online store. It's free for anyone to look up. If the dog isn't listed it wasn't registered. If it is listed and has CH in front of it's name it was a champion. If the CH is not there it wasn't a champion.

What's the big deal many of you ask? It's not a big deal unless it isn't there. It's all about credibility!!!!!!!!!!

Well, I don't know if it lists that far back but you are correct on if the dog is registered you can find it. I tested it, and my Papillon came up. You might have had the name wrong, and that is why they did not come up.

I just think the way you went about asking about it was not a good approach. Calling fraud on someone and then asking for a name would not get a good result for one. Maybe if you would have said that "I looked up the dogs name, but was unable to find anything. Did I maybe get the name wrong? Would you be willing to give me the correct name so I could?" you would have gotten a better result.

No offense, but you are new to the forum(as am I), and I'm sure you would not want someone coming into your house (using as example), and saying bad things when this was their 1st time in your home. Maybe from now on try a nicer appraoch to things you want to question, and you just may get an answer.

[Giselle]

I just think the way you went about asking about it was not a good approach. Calling fraud on someone and then asking for a name would not get a good result for one. Maybe if you would have said that "I looked up the dogs name, but was unable to find anything. Did I maybe get the name wrong? Would you be willing to give me the correct name so I could?" you would have gotten a better result.

Georgous dogs. Were they AKC champions or shown under another registry? Their names aren't showing up on the AKC registration lookup. Maybe it's just the spelling because the collie didn't show up either.

-Mikki

"Stalenwald/t Belgian"
http://www.google.com/search?client=...=Google+Search
http://www.google.com/search?hs=u7e&...an&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hs=goz&...el&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hs=toz&...el&btnG=Search

Just stating the facts.

[Tollers-n-Dobes]

A google search can prove much, in my opinion. A friend of mine has a friend who used to breed Flat Coats, and her kennel name doesn't come up at all on a search. I don't know about the rest of PT, but I'm truly sick of people trying to prove others wrong constantly and just being ignorant about it. Perhaps there really is no breeder by the name of Stalinwalt, but you never truly know for sure. There isn't any need to jump to conclusions constantly and accuse someone of something just because one or two people think something is wrong.

Anyway, Borzoimom, your Belgians were beautiful. Thanks for sharing the pictures.

[Danegirl2208]

A google search can prove much, in my opinion. A friend of mine has a friend who used to breed Flat Coats, and her kennel name doesn't come up at all on a search. I don't know about the rest of PT, but I'm truly sick of people trying to prove others wrong constantly and just being ignorant about it. Perhaps there really is no breeder by the name of Stalinwalt, but you never truly know for sure. There isn't any need to jump to conclusions constantly and accuse someone of something just because one or two people think something is wrong.

Anyway, Borzoimom, your Belgians were beautiful. Thanks for sharing the pictures.

i agree with you 100%...i left another forum that i was active on for over year because of things like this..its ridiculous..

they were gorgeous Borzoimom!

[wolfsoul]

Stalenwalt may not show up, but if you look at the end of the name, it says De Bruge (De Bruges) which was an old kennel in Europe that generally bred malinois and working line groenendael. Either this dog was imported back from De Bruges (which I do believe she mentioned in one of her posts), or it was registered before it's ownership fell through. De Bruges WAS an actual kennel.

[Giselle]

Stalenwalt may not show up, but if you look at the end of the name, it says De Bruge (De Bruges) which was an old kennel in Europe that generally bred malinois and working line groenendael. Either this dog was imported back from De Bruges (which I do believe she mentioned in one of her posts), or it was registered before it's ownership fell through. De Bruges WAS an actual kennel.

Thank you for the explanation. That's all I was looking for. After seeing so many frauds, it's instinct to be a little tentative.

[wolfsoul]

Btw -- I used the search dogs option on the AKC website. Not every kennel shows up. Johnsondale was the TOP kennel in North America for the longest time -- they had the #1 groenendael stud in North America, his sister was the #1 Belgian EVERYTHING, the first to do this and that and so on -- yet not a single one of their dogs comes up.

[Mikki]

wolfsoul would you please clarify what "or it was registered before it's ownership fell through" means? That's a dogspeak I'm not familiar with.

[borzoimom]

Stalenwalt may not show up, but if you look at the end of the name, it says De Bruge (De Bruges) which was an old kennel in Europe that generally bred malinois and working line groenendael. Either this dog was imported back from De Bruges (which I do believe she mentioned in one of her posts), or it was registered before it's ownership fell through. De Bruges WAS an actual kennel.

Yes she was an import. Thats why she didnt have my kennel name on it. She has the importers name. YOu can, since you have the same breed, also see the quality in her.. I still think it has something to do with her death, and notification as required by the AKC. She never produced puppies, Born 20 years ago, and died a few years back. Also- she wasnt born in the US.
I also agree with danegirl. I left another forum for such stupidity. And as I stated to Karen, I would love to present documentation to proof and show how petty these responses got- but I dont know who they are.. Not willing to give out my address as it would be on papers either. As hostile as this post turned, How do I know this poster is not a stalker or something..
Thank you all for you wonderful words on her. I wish I had an adult picture on "Clipper" but I dont have all my photos anymore as they they lost and destroyed by my ex.

[TFTpwnsYou]

Yes it is. That is why she came here and advised me to do so as well because the people were a lot nicer here.

[Mikki]

Can you possibly explain how this comment could be inerpreted as accusing or "calling fraud on someone"

Georgous dogs. Were they AKC champions or shown under another registry? Their names aren't showing up on the AKC registration lookup. Maybe it's just the spelling because the collie didn't show up either.

It's strikes me as being whole lot more considerate than accusing a newcomer of following them from another forum or "being on drugs".

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Well, I don't know if it lists that far back but you are correct on if the dog is registered you can find it. I tested it, and my Papillon came up. You might have had the name wrong, and that is why they did not come up.

I just think the way you went about asking about it was not a good approach. Calling fraud on someone and then asking for a name would not get a good result for one. Maybe if you would have said that "I looked up the dogs name, but was unable to find anything. Did I maybe get the name wrong? Would you be willing to give me the correct name so I could?" you would have gotten a better result.

No offense, but you are new to the forum(as am I), and I'm sure you would not want someone coming into your house (using as example), and saying bad things when this was their 1st time in your home. Maybe from now on try a nicer appraoch to things you want to question, and you just may get an answer.