In desperate need of advice

[Giselle]

It's not called starving. It's called fasting. When you're ill with the flu and you're throwing up everywhere, does your mother lay a steak in front of you and force you to eat it? No, she gives you hot soup because your body is too busy trying to repair its immune system. It doesn't have time to digest a steak.

In the same sense, you're giving Jenny's stomach a rest by feeding her bland rice and chicken/turkey/whathaveyou. That is, if you decide to feed at all. When my dogs are sick, I'll often forego a meal (or two meals).

I don't know why she's getting so sick, but I'm going to suggest it's because the food is not agreeing with her. In that case, I would switch to something higher up like Chicken Soup for the Dog Lover's Soul, Innova, Innova EVO, California Natural, Pinnacle, Fromm, Wysong, Wellness, Blue Buffalo, etc. You can find a store locator at any of these brand's website. Simply type the brand name into Google and you'll find a link.

Secondly, DO NOT run your dog after jogging!!!!!! Although the exact causes of bloat are unknown, there is very high speculation that running/jogging after eating and drinking is going to increase the risk of bloat. When you have a deep-chested breed like a Greyhound, you must be on the lookout of bloat. Dog with full tummy + gasping/panting for air = TROUBLE. If you must exercise her after feeding, do so after a period of rest. For example, I refuse to let Giselle play until at least an hour after feeding.

[Tollers-n-Dobes]

Nutro has added a low quality ingredient to their products, which is causing dogs to become sick. It is not a food that I'd ever recommend anymore, to anyone. It used to be a decent midway food, but now it's not much better than Iams. In my opinion, absolutely any food that you can find in Wal-Mart is awful. I won't even feed any food that is sold in PetsMart. I only buy my food at the smaller, pet speciality stores as they seem to be the only places that sell anything decent (in Canada anyway). If she's throwing up daily, as you say she is, switch her off of it. Canidae is pretty good, and not overly expensive either. It's what Winston has to eat, because he throws up on anything else and he's been great on this. California Natural, Innova, etc. are even better but I think you said before that you can't find them anywhere or something. Incase I have you mistaken with someone else though, you can find store locators on both of their sites (www.naturapet.com and www.Canidae.com). Good luck! I hope you'll be able to find something that agrees with her soon.

When my dogs are sick, I also fast them for a meal or two. It doesn't do them any harm at all..

[bluebird]

I'm not a fan of raw feeding, but that's not the issue here and I'm not about to get into another one of those pointless debates.

In Jen's case though it might pay to give raw feeding some serious thought.
Since it's hard for you to buy any of the quality foods in your area, it might be easier to buy the ingredients for raw feeding. Another consideration is Jen's continuing problems with digestive upset. She sounds like she could be a prime candidate for bloat, and if that's the case, raw feeding could be a potential life saver!

With her history, it would be advisable to wait at least two hours after exercise before feeding her. Or to wait two hours after feeding before beginning any exercise.

[borzoimom]

I'm not a fan of raw feeding, but that's not the issue here and I'm not about to get into another one of those pointless debates.

In Jen's case though it might pay to give raw feeding some serious thought.
Since it's hard for you to buy any of the quality foods in your area, it might be easier to buy the ingredients for raw feeding. Another consideration is Jen's continuing problems with digestive upset. She sounds like she could be a prime candidate for bloat, and if that's the case, raw feeding could be a potential life saver!

With her history, it would be advisable to wait at least two hours after exercise before feeding her. Or to wait two hours after feeding before beginning any exercise.

If you want to feed raw, let me know, as I have been doing it for the last 19 years. But at least take her off of nutro. They have been such a mess for years as they use rendering plants to make their food which includes 4d meats- tumors, discarded rancid meat etc. It use to be good, but they took their money from the ingredients and went into advertising.
Try any of the ones suggested above. But DUMP the nutro... Authority is better than that one, and I bite my tongue as I say it.
I got involved with dog foods in the 80's in the ethoxquin problem and wish I didnt know what I do, but I do... Even pedigree is cleaner than nutro if that tells you anything.. ( off my soup box now.._

[GreyhoundGirl]

I had pedigree and purina and Iams and everyone told me to switch to Nutro, I just bought a bag-on monday- that is huge, it'll take her 3 months to get through it. But I don't go into town often, so I got the large bag. Hate that choice now... But she's stuck with that food for at least 3 months (longer if she starts fasting )

[Lady's Human]

If the pup isn't holding the food down, it isn't doing any good to feed her, shes not getting anything out of it.

You need to give her a break from the food to find out if it's what is causing her problems, and try feeding her something else. How would you like to be fed something that made you ill for months because its all that was in the 'fridge?

[GreyhoundGirl]

If the pup isn't holding the food down, it isn't doing any good to feed her, shes not getting anything out of it.

You need to give her a break from the food to find out if it's what is causing her problems, and try feeding her something else. How would you like to be fed something that made you ill for months because its all that was in the 'fridge?

What else can I feed her? I won't be going into town again untill Tuesday.

[bluebird]

"Nutro has added a low quality ingredient to their products, which is causing dogs to become sick."

Has this been proven? If so, what is the source of the proof?

[borzoimom]

Nutro has added a low quality ingredient to their products, which is causing dogs to become sick. It is not a food that I'd ever recommend anymore, to anyone. It used to be a decent midway food, but now it's not much better than Iams. In my opinion, absolutely any food that you can find in Wal-Mart is awful. I won't even feed any food that is sold in PetsMart. I only buy my food at the smaller, pet speciality stores as they seem to be the only places that sell anything decent (in Canada anyway). If she's throwing up daily, as you say she is, switch her off of it. Canidae is pretty good, and not overly expensive either. It's what Winston has to eat, because he throws up on anything else and he's been great on this. California Natural, Innova, etc. are even better but I think you said before that you can't find them anywhere or something. Incase I have you mistaken with someone else though, you can find store locators on both of their sites (www.naturapet.com and www.Canidae.com). Good luck! I hope you'll be able to find something that agrees with her soon.

When my dogs are sick, I also fast them for a meal or two. It doesn't do them any harm at all..

AMEN APPLAUSE APPLAUSE!!!!!!!! GOD BLESS YA- YES YOU ARE RIGHT ON!

[borzoimom]

CANDIEA IS GREAT SO IS WOLF SOMETHING and Bil Jac.. Nutro has been sued several times for rancid food..

[Jadapit]

CANDIEA IS GREAT SO IS WOLF SOMETHING and Bil Jac.. Nutro has been sued several times for rancid food..

I used to feed my dogs Nutro. I'm glad I dont anymore from what I keep reading about them. Are you talking about the Timberwolf dog food? My dogs get that for breakfast then raw at night. Timberwolf is a great food. It's pretty pricey but well worth the money. IMHO. I also live in a real small town there are NO decent dog foods sold here. I have to order the Timberwolf online.

[Tollers-n-Dobes]

Bluebird, my family used to feed Nutro to our dogs (well, my parents did. I’ve never liked it.) And all of a sudden they started throwing up and getting really sick on it. The same thing was also happening to friend’s dogs who fed the same food, and was happening to other dogs on other forums and such. So, I (and many others) called Nutro and asked if they had changed something in their products. They basically said that because there is a great demand for the food, and that Wal-Mart will soon be carrying it that they added Soybean oil (and something else, but I can’t remember the name) to make it cheaper to process. They didn’t say it exactly like that, and tried to act all responsible and such, but that’s basically what they were trying to convey to me. I don’t know if there are any articles anywhere stating this change, but this is what I was told by the company themselves.

[Vela]

People are giving you advice to help your dog, what they are saying WILL help your dog, unless there is something physically wrong with her, that only a vet can help. The fasting and bland food is something you HAVE TO DO if you want this to stop and want to try to find out what the problem is. Stop asking for advice and making excuses if you won't do what they are telling you to do. Fast your dog for 24 hours, no biscuit, no chew ezz. The next start her in 2 to 34 very small feedings spaced thrughout hte day of either boiled chicken and rice or hamburger and rice. You can make a batch and use it for sevral days. Do the same the next day, an the next. Then try a small feeding or her normal food. Throughout this time do not give her biscuits or cheweez, whatever that is. If you want her to get better, and don't want your mom to get rid of her, DO IT. I am not berating you but you are talking about yoru dog bieng sick every day, your mom wanting to get rid of her, and you keep making excuses as to why you won't try these things peopel are telling you. If she throws up the Nutro, then no, she can't eat it for the next 3 months, you could jeopardize her health. You really really need to do this, you asked for help and there it is. I really don't want to see something happen to her or her to be rehomed because you wouldn't try, please try it. I hope she gets better.

[bluebird]

Bluebird, my family used to feed Nutro to our dogs (well, my parents did. I’ve never liked it.) And all of a sudden they started throwing up and getting really sick on it. The same thing was also happening to friend’s dogs who fed the same food, and was happening to other dogs on other forums and such. So, I (and many others) called Nutro and asked if they had changed something in their products. They basically said that because there is a great demand for the food, and that Wal-Mart will soon be carrying it that they added Soybean oil (and something else, but I can’t remember the name) to make it cheaper to process. They didn’t say it exactly like that, and tried to act all responsible and such, but that’s basically what they were trying to convey to me. I don’t know if there are any articles anywhere stating this change, but this is what I was told by the company themselves.

Since there is no evidence to back these claims up, other than what has been discussed in pet discussions, it should probably be classified as another urban myth, unless it relates to the actual recall which has long since been resolved.

Especially so since Nutro produces many dog foods and there is no mention of which specific food caused the supposed problems. ALL Nutro products will not be available at Wal-Mart. Even if the claims of a change of one ingredient in the few that will be sold at wal-mart could be substansiated, ALL formulas produced by Nutro have not been changed and ALL Nutro products are not bad for pets.

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The dog food controversy will continue forever. But pet owners must be kept aware that many of the things they read are completely out of date, published by special interest groups and deliberately misleading, mass hysteria or pure fantasy.

[borzoimom]

I used to feed my dogs Nutro. I'm glad I dont anymore from what I keep reading about them. Are you talking about the Timberwolf dog food? My dogs get that for breakfast then raw at night. Timberwolf is a great food. It's pretty pricey but well worth the money. IMHO. I also live in a real small town there are NO decent dog foods sold here. I have to order the Timberwolf online.

Yes timberwolf thank you.. I forgot the name. I feed raw and keep bil jac as a back up because it turns to mush instantly in the gut and I have deep chested dogs..Timberwolf is a good one but I cant get it here.. And happy with raw for 19 years..