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[Cataholic]

I KNOW that I will never get a office job, I couldnt handle being in a enviroment like that. No effence to people who work in one I just think Id be bored stiff, I hate not being up and moving or constantly and doing hands on things.[/color][/b]

What does that really mean to you? **Most** people work in an office enviroment, and are thankful for it. No outhouses for potty breaks, a warmth in the winter, a colder environment in the summer, a phone for emergencies, etc. So, when you say you KNOW (though at your age, KNOW is a pretty strong word) you will never get an office job, I wonder what your plans are?

Even in the outside job market, post office workers- sometimes, construction workers- sometimes, landscaping, field engineering- most times, these people aren't really 'up and moving constantly', and still have to comply with rules, regulations, authority, and interacting with the public. I would imagine, too, that they get bored stiff, too! (Funny, I work in an office, and can't really think of many times that I have been bored stiff.).

You are young, and entitled to your dreams (as are we older folks). But, I wonder if you have really put any thought whatsoever into your 'five years out' plan.

For tatoos, piercings, hair colour, etc., feel free to treat your body as you see fit. I wouldn't hire you- which doesn't mean you are or are not a 'good person' or 'good employee', but, you don't project the right image for my economic well being. Most things turn on the almighty dollar (or euro, or peso). If your looks would turn away business, I can't afford to have you here with me. It isn't discriminatory, it is economics.

[BC_MoM]

Wow, Cataholic, take it easy .. I had my plans for my future by the time I was 15. Age means

NOTHING.

There are HUNDREDS of other options for jobs out there that aren't in the office that Alicia could EASILY get hired for.

It sounds like you were hurt by her office comment.

[Cataholic]

Wow, Cataholic, take it easy .. I had my plans for my future by the time I was 15. Age means

NOTHING.

There are HUNDREDS of other options for jobs out there that aren't in the office that Alicia could EASILY get hired for.

It sounds like you were hurt by her office comment.

Hurt by her comment? Are you serious? Wow. I must go re-read my post. I don't think that could be any further from what I meant. I was actually confused by her comments, and wanted to know what she had planned for her future.

I don't know what you mean by age, and how it means nothing. That you had your plans (I don't know what they are, but, I guess I would presume they are in line with hers?), at 15, and what that meant in relation to my post. Really, your post came so out of left field I am kind of stunned. I must have hit a nerve with you, big time. Sorry about that.

I am not sure what hundreds of jobs that Alicia (assuming again that that is her name, as I just don't seem to be as embroiled in this as you might think) could get you are referring to. I saw someone suggest she apply at a bowling alley. Is that what you are thinking of, also? If so, what kind of sustainable employment is that? Sure, maybe at 15 or 16 it is 'fun', but, seems kind of limiting to me.

Wow...even as I finish this post, I am really shocked at your response, and what emotions I must have brought up. I do apologize. I can tell you I didn't mean it in the way you took it.

I dont mean to put you down in anyway, I just thought I would explain what I think Alicia means

Why would I feel put down in anyway? I am chuckling here....really.

[BC_MoM]

Hurt by her comment? Are you serious? Wow. I must go re-read my post. I don't think that could be any further from what I meant. I was actually confused by her comments, and wanted to know what she had planned for her future.

I don't know what you mean by age, and how it means nothing. That you had your plans (I don't know what they are, but, I guess I would presume they are in line with hers?), at 15, and what that meant in relation to my post. Really, your post came so out of left field I am kind of stunned. I must have hit a nerve with you, big time. Sorry about that.

I am not sure what hundreds of jobs that Alicia (assuming again that that is her name, as I just don't seem to be as embroiled in this as you might think) could get you are referring to. I saw someone suggest she apply at a bowling alley. Is that what you are thinking of, also? If so, what kind of sustainable employment is that? Sure, maybe at 15 or 16 it is 'fun', but, seems kind of limiting to me.

Wow...even as I finish this post, I am really shocked at your response, and what emotions I must have brought up. I do apologize. I can tell you I didn't mean it in the way you took it.



Why would I feel put down in anyway? I am chuckling here....really.

I think you've been stuck in the office too long, lol... Yes, there are HUNDREDS of jobs that are not "in-office" jobs out there. I don't appreciate the sarcasm of working at a bowling alley.

[Muddy4paws]

What does that really mean to you? **Most** people work in an office enviroment, and are thankful for it. No outhouses for potty breaks, a warmth in the winter, a colder environment in the summer, a phone for emergencies, etc. So, when you say you KNOW (though at your age, KNOW is a pretty strong word) you will never get an office job, I wonder what your plans are?

Even in the outside job market, post office workers- sometimes, construction workers- sometimes, landscaping, field engineering- most times, these people aren't really 'up and moving constantly', and still have to comply with rules, regulations, authority, and interacting with the public. I would imagine, too, that they get bored stiff, too! (Funny, I work in an office, and can't really think of many times that I have been bored stiff.).

You are young, and entitled to your dreams (as are we older folks). But, I wonder if you have really put any thought whatsoever into your 'five years out' plan.

For tatoos, piercings, hair colour, etc., feel free to treat your body as you see fit. I wouldn't hire you- which doesn't mean you are or are not a 'good person' or 'good employee', but, you don't project the right image for my economic well being. Most things turn on the almighty dollar (or euro, or peso). If your looks would turn away business, I can't afford to have you here with me. It isn't discriminatory, it is economics.

I can see where you are coming from but I do the same job as Alicia, Im more experience with the actual grooming but I can definatly see what she means, Im 18 years old and I cant ever see myself sitting in an office again. Hand on heart.
I've tried other jobs but I love the busy rush that comes with dog grooming! If you are used to something like that then you really do miss it, I know from experience and I was so depressed when I had to leave my old job, I worked on reception somewhere else and I did find it boring but only because Im so used to being active and to go from getting soaked, bitten, scratched etc for most of the day to sitting behind a computer all day is a big change! I cannot see myself doing any other job because I love the job Im in, Alicia should be proud, I've seen a few people try out to do dog grooming but they cant handle the pace and the constant go, She should be proud that she wants to carry on in a very demanding job.

I dont mean to put you down in anyway, I just thought I would explain what I think Alicia means

[mugsy]

What does that really mean to you? **Most** people work in an office enviroment, and are thankful for it. No outhouses for potty breaks, a warmth in the winter, a colder environment in the summer, a phone for emergencies, etc. So, when you say you KNOW (though at your age, KNOW is a pretty strong word) you will never get an office job, I wonder what your plans are?

Even in the outside job market, post office workers- sometimes, construction workers- sometimes, landscaping, field engineering- most times, these people aren't really 'up and moving constantly', and still have to comply with rules, regulations, authority, and interacting with the public. I would imagine, too, that they get bored stiff, too! (Funny, I work in an office, and can't really think of many times that I have been bored stiff.).

You are young, and entitled to your dreams (as are we older folks). But, I wonder if you have really put any thought whatsoever into your 'five years out' plan.

For tatoos, piercings, hair colour, etc., feel free to treat your body as you see fit. I wouldn't hire you- which doesn't mean you are or are not a 'good person' or 'good employee', but, you don't project the right image for my economic well being. Most things turn on the almighty dollar (or euro, or peso). If your looks would turn away business, I can't afford to have you here with me. It isn't discriminatory, it is economics.

Here! Here! Johanna! As a new business owner, excessive tats and piercings will turn my customers off...I promise. Mike has 2 holes in his left ear and tats on both arms above the short sleeve line....by my request.

[buttercup132]

What does that really mean to you? **Most** people work in an office enviroment, and are thankful for it. No outhouses for potty breaks, a warmth in the winter, a colder environment in the summer, a phone for emergencies, etc. So, when you say you KNOW (though at your age, KNOW is a pretty strong word) you will never get an office job, I wonder what your plans are?

Even in the outside job market, post office workers- sometimes, construction workers- sometimes, landscaping, field engineering- most times, these people aren't really 'up and moving constantly', and still have to comply with rules, regulations, authority, and interacting with the public. I would imagine, too, that they get bored stiff, too! (Funny, I work in an office, and can't really think of many times that I have been bored stiff.).

You are young, and entitled to your dreams (as are we older folks). But, I wonder if you have really put any thought whatsoever into your 'five years out' plan.

For tatoos, piercings, hair colour, etc., feel free to treat your body as you see fit. I wouldn't hire you- which doesn't mean you are or are not a 'good person' or 'good employee', but, you don't project the right image for my economic well being. Most things turn on the almighty dollar (or euro, or peso). If your looks would turn away business, I can't afford to have you here with me. It isn't discriminatory, it is economics.

Its a groomers. We have heating,air conditioning, a inside bathroom and 3 phones. The thing is they offered to do my schooling for FREE. I'm not going to pass that up. Its not some crappy low pay job either and is a carreer. Once again no effence to people who work here but its not like working at a grocerie store. Working in a grocerie store isnt really a career this is.

[Cataholic]

Its a groomers. We have heating,air conditioning, a inside bathroom and 3 phones. The thing is they offered to do my schooling for FREE. I'm not going to pass that up. Its not some crappy low pay job either and is a carreer. Once again no effence to people who work here but its not like working at a grocerie store. Working in a grocerie store isnt really a career this is.

That does sound like a plan to me. And, paying for your schooling is a huge benefit. And, thank you for explaining your position, rather than attacking anyone.

[Miss Z]

I've come into this a little late, hopefully the arguements are ceasing now...

Alicia, I think you took a brave step to make a formal announcement and an explanation, from your own point of view, about your situation. I admire you for that and it takes someone with guts to be prepared for the whole variety of posts that will follow. So well done you.

Second, although PT can offer advice and words, we can't do any more than that. Don't let yourself suffer, hun. Get to those classes and give them everything you've got and show everyone you can cope with whatever comes your way. Outlook on life is the key, and everyone respects that, PTers, friends and family, and heck most of all employers! You can only make fire with the sticks you have, and my dear I know with a bit of elbow grease you can start the best darn blaze you can

You know what's right in your head, I can tell you do, you just don't always feel like following it, and that's perfectly understandable, especially being a teenager and all the side-effects which come with that. Don't let other things get you down, I suggest you take a good hot bath, eat a big bar of your favourite chocolate, and go to bed tonight thinking, "Hey world, here I come!"

[Anita Cholaine]

Alicia, I totally understand you about not seeing yourself in office jobs. It happens the same to me. I would get an office job only as a last option, but I know that I wouldn't be happy at all in one. Maybe I'll change my opinion in some years, who knows...
It's really good that you explained your situation, and I'm glad to know about your job in the groomers. It sounds like a big oportunity, so I wish you the best

[Husky15]

Alicia,

I understand what you mean with the whole office thing. Office work is not for everyone, that's why there are other job opportunities out there. I think it's great that you're commited to your dog grooming job, and I also think it's great that you're not afraid to be yourself and express yourself in your own way. I don't think you should be a whole different person just to get a job, you must be true to yourself, but sometimes you just got to compromise. It is difficult, but it works.

It is also a great benefit that the groomers are paying for your school. I wouldn't pass that up either!