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[king2005]

It is & isn't an excuse. As a mature "adult" its not an excuse, but as a "teen" it is an excuse. I was just like you once upon a time & can still be from time to time.

I use to talk to Bri all the time & was wondering why she wasn't on MSN anylonger.. If you ever need to talk let me know eh.

[Anita Cholaine]

Well, it seems like it's time to sit down and start organizing your life...
I know you're having a lot of things going on in your life right now. That is totally understandable, we all have problems, and yes, they can change our mood and the way we act, but you can't use them as an excuse. If you feel that this is the reason why you're acting rude to other people, then it's up to you to change your attitude. No one can really help you on this.

Good luck, and I hope things start getting better.

[kitten645]

As a mature "adult" its not an excuse, but as a "teen" it is an excuse

I don't agree. There's a reason this forum has age limits. Everyone should treat each other with respect. A load of excuses doesn't make up for rudeness. Had buttercup just said "I'm sorry" that would have been the mature polite thing to do.
RE: piercings etc. I myself don't have a problem with most, however it is an employers right to decide what is or isn't acceptable in their establishment. For better or worse, there are people that would go to a Walmart and see a cashier with a nose ring etc and be repulsed and have a negative "shopping experience". That can't be helped. It's the employers right and obligation to their company to do what's best for the company. That's just life. Fair or not.
Buttercup NEEDS to take a PT break if it's causing her additional distress. By her own admission , no one understands "where she's coming from" here, so what benefit does she get from spending time (which could be spend on homework ) here.

[Corinna]

Ok a bit on peicings and tattoos . they are fine but I don't want to see them if i'm dining any where. As a 3rd generation nurses kid I know how easy and how many times Heppitisis (sp) is caught I don't want my food near that. My son in law is a tattoo artist but he can only do the cleaning of his end after people leave the shop it's up to them.
I work in retail and i want all my customers to feel comfortable, so I dress conservitive and clean. just as I want when I'm the customer. I have no objection with what you do on your own time but don't wait on me in blue spiked hair. i walk out of businesses like that and I have no problem letting management know they lost a sale and why.

[buttercup132]

Ok woah, I did not make this for people to be rude right back at me. I dont get how some of you can complain about me being rude yet you act the exact same way back.. practise what you preach?
I was appologizing for how I was latley. You all say people make mistakes then go on complaining about how I have terrible spelling mistakes!?! I make typos, so dose everyone. And I usually read my posts over to make sure there are no mistakes.
I'm not making excuses about no getting a job at certain places they wont hire me because I "express" myself in a different way.

1.) Go to those English classes...your post contains so many errors...wrong word...grammar, spelling....you need the class far more than lunch with your friends...

Its not that I have bad grammar or anything its mostly constant typos.

3.) Have you apologized to Tim yet? Not given excuses ....APOLOGIZED....said..."I was rude and I am sorry?"

No I havent but I will. Thanks for reminding me.

skipping work is not an option

I havnt EVER missed a day of work.

Lori I do apologize for being like that to you at first, but I'm not anymore right?
The reason why I was before is becasuse of the breeding you did and I held that against you. I judged you by your past actions instead of getting ot know you now.

D&D I think your post was most meaningful
it actually hit me the most.

Russian Blue thank you for putting it into kind words.

I think what I will do for now is still come on PT but maybe not post.

Or try and control myself to only post on threads that I can have something positive to say.

Thank you for those who pmed me with positive things, those who pmed me saying rude things I dont know what your problem is, ou were rude enough to me on here I dont see why you have to also pm me being rude. I hope you feel better now that you yelled at someone a lot younger then you.

[finn's mom]

Or try and control myself to only post on threads that I can have something positive to say.

Now, that sounds like a plan. Or at least try to use tact, a little compassion, speak from your heart, but, remember there is almost always a nicer way to say something to get your point across. That's something many people could learn from. Not just in Pet Talk, either, but, in every day life where you are face to face with people.

And, just as a note, I find it sad when children speak disrespectfully to their peers and especially to their elders (and, yes, that may be old fashioned, but, it's how I feel). But, what I find fantastically tiring and disappointing is when adults respond on identical levels. It's actually pathetic to see some of the replies in pet talk (and some of the things I hear daily) that come from the keyboards (and mouths) of grown women.

[dogzr#1]

Ok, time for me to put my two (or maybe ten) cents in. Oh, and I better warn you, as I tend to write books.

Alicia, you are what, 16? You have only two years until you are considered an adult and the behavior you are showing is not very...'adulty'. It's time for you to start growing up. Skipping school, getting into fights, tatoos, piercings. Now, if I may be so bold to inject my professional opinion. (<---Alyssa, you may or may not recognize that. )

Those two people who have been harassing you just need to be put on ignore. That's why it's called that. So you can IGNORE them. If they continue to harass you somehow, just contact Karen and Paul and I'm sure they will take care of it. I think I know what one of the PTers are. Yes, I agree, they can be annoying at times, but most of the time I just ignore their posts. Maybe you should do the same.

You shouldn't be skipping a class just to eat lunch with friends! No offense, but maybe that's why your spelling and grammar skills aren't that great. I am aware that my grammar isn't the absolute best and yes, we all make mistakes, but I'm just saying that maybe if you go to that English class more often, you could improve your grammar. Do your parents know you're skipping that class? I know if my mom found out I was skipping a class, she would personally kill me.

This is just my opinion, but I knew if I were to see a person serving me or cashing me out with a visible piercing(s), I would think they looked unprofessional. I'm sure it doesn't take much of a profession to take orders or to scan items, but you must have some sort of decency and care about the first impressions of others to take care choosing piercings/tatoos that cannot be seen. And being a kid doesn't help matters any. Most people think very lowly of you if they see a 16 year old kid with visible tatoos and piercings and may think bad of your parents as they are the ones that let you get the tats/piercings in the first place. Some people may be offended with your tatoos and perhaps may go complain to the store/restaraunt.

Also, some newer members may not know of the other sections. Give them a break. I'm sure when you first joined, you didn't post all in the right section. Yes, they are in bold, but most people just stay in their section. (and I'm going to use Tim as an example here) Tim mostly posts in dog general so perhaps he didn't know of the other sections and he probably didn't have a reason to look elsewhere other than Dog General. No need to be so rude towards him. Cut the guy some slack.

All in all, you seriously have to get your priorities straightened out. Remember, school/education first, friends/family/pets second. I know it may sound rude to put them second, but they aren't the ones that can finish college for you and get you a job that will properly house and take care of you.


(see, I always happen to write a book! )

[dab_20]

I agree with most everyone here. Some of those problems that your going through could be prevented. Like how your behind in homework. Having lunch with friends should not be a reason for you to skip class. You are upset that your behind on homework, but YOU are the one who didn't go to class. Spend more time on your homework then on PT, then once you get caught up you can be on here as much as you want- without any worries!

And there are no excuses for being rude. I understand you are trying to apologize, and that's great of you. I am going through alot of things right now, too, and I try my hardest to not take it out on others. It helps to talk to someone about it, whether it's a friend, your parents, a counsler, etc.

The PTrs who are giving you a hard time, just ignore them! You can put them on your ignore list or talk to Karen about it.

I left PT when I first joined because I was upset that people replied to my posts something other then I wanted to hear. I was defensive because I just didn't want to hear other opinions, or rather the truth. I took a good look at my posts and realized I was being very rude and immature. I'm not saying you are... it just sometimes helps to take a break.

Some new PTrs may not know or understand what the different sections are for. That's no reason to get angry, we all were somewhat confused when we first joined. It takes a bit of time to learn.

Well, I know I pretty much repeated what many others said so I'll stop here. Hope you feel better and get everything worked out.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Good you apologized to Tim. Stay in that English class.

[Kfamr]

It's funny how often people complain, for lack of better term, about proper grammar/English/etc. I never knew how bad I was until I started my GED class. I did well, however, I have a lot of room for improvement.

I've always been complimented on my way with words, yet I need a lot of work!

[Alysser]

if I may be so bold to inject my professional opinion. (<---Alyssa, you may or may not recognize that. )

You know me well, Monica.

[Husky15]

I have only one thing to say, because it's driving me crazy.

"Alot" is not recognized as a word in the English language. What everyone who is using this means to write is "a lot," i.e., two separate words with a space in between.

Thank you.

You're right, though. It's a habit I try to break. I'm a grammar freak lol...

[Vela]

Buttercup, as long as you realize there are problems you can work on for yourself in how you respond to others, then that is a great first step. I don't understand the need to PM anyone with harmful things, it doesn't help, so I don't know why anyone woudl do that...the best thing to do is just ignore those, they aren't gonig to help you or the sender.

There are some days when we ALL come out sounding snippy and we all have many reasons. I hope you are able to work out some of the issues you have personally, and are able to enjoy the board more with a more positive attitude. I have been gulity of being snippy before but I always try to apologize when I do it, and as long as you do that with sincerity, I'm sure most people are more than willing to forgive and get over it.

[Muddy4paws]

That really annoys me when people correct other, some people have learning difficulties I'm bad at spelling and grammer and I cant help it, It knocks my confidence to know it bothers people so much

[Karen]

That really annoys me when people correct other, some people have learning difficulties I'm bad at spelling and grammer and I cant help it, It knocks my confidence to know it bothers people so much

We do try to make allowances for learning difficulties, but sometimes we know it is just a matter of rushing, or not caring - that's what we try to correct.

Don't feel badly, Muddy4paws, we just ask that people honestly try. In the case of students especially, I know that paying more attention to their typing here is good practice for schoolwork later. Forming good communication habits is helpful in almost every career field as well.