Breeder sites

[angelbow20]

I understand that shelters have dogs that need homes, but what happens to all the puppies that breeders and pet stores have? they all need homes also, i have read sites about puppmills and petstores who put those puppies to sleep also and abuse them so i dont think theres anything wrong with buying from a breed i have 2 dogs from a breeder and 2 from shelters and go for what go for because i love all my dogs the same, and i feel i saved all there lives anyway.

[lwds]

I understand that shelters have dogs that need homes, but what happens to all the puppies that breeders and pet stores have? they all need homes also, i have read sites about puppmills and petstores who put those puppies to sleep also and abuse them so i dont think theres anything wrong with buying from a breed i have 2 dogs from a breeder and 2 from shelters and go for what go for because i love all my dogs the same, and i feel i saved all there lives anyway.

I have no problem with someone buying from a reputable, responsible, and ethical breeder. I do, and my next show bitch will come from one. I also rescue, and so does most responsible breeders in some way.

BUT, I do have problems with someone buying from a BYB, pet store, or miller. Why? Because they breed and/or sell for profit, the dogs are nothing but income for them. Buy a dog from them, that supports them.

Say I go into a store and buy a maltipoocockawhatever, what do you think the store will do next? Probably buy another maltipoocockawhatever or another demanding breed to fill the cage. Ongoing cycle... there's a need for these places because people buy the dogs.

BUT, what would happen if no one would purchase puppies from irresponsible sources (thinking big here)? Those BYBs, millers, and stores would probably go away because there's no need. What's the point? There's nothing in it for them anymore. Same thing when grocery stores stop selling products, it's not profitable anymore or there's little demand for it. That's why it's so important NOT to support them.

You might "save" a dog's life, but I pity the puppy that would take it's place. I pity the parents even more.

[angelbow20]

I do understand what your point is also, but i just feel that people should'nt get looked down on for buying from a breeder sometimes also, and not a shelter, of course i feel horrible for shelter dogs also but i just think its ok to buy from breeders also, anyone thats selling or getting rid of a healthy loving puppy to a good home is fine with me, i never would agree with any kind of mill or anywhere where the puppies or adult dogs were getting abused in anyway i feel they should have law to shut them down. Although theres so many mills in Lancaster Pa which is about 2 hrs away from where i live with hundreds or thousands of poor puppies and adult dogs being mistreated and are'nt even getting shut down for it!

[lwds]

I do understand what your point is also, but i just feel that people should'nt get looked down on for buying from a breeder sometimes also, and not a shelter, of course i feel horrible for shelter dogs also but i just think its ok to buy from breeders also, anyone thats selling or getting rid of a healthy loving puppy to a good home is fine with me, i never would agree with any kind of mill or anywhere where the puppies or adult dogs were getting abused in anyway i feel they should have law to shut them down. Although theres so many mills in Lancaster Pa which is about 2 hrs away from where i live with hundreds or thousands of poor puppies and adult dogs being mistreated and are'nt even getting shut down for it!

I don't understand you. Who's looking down on people for purchasing from a breeder?

I would not look down on someone who purchases from a good breeder, and I wouldn't look down on someone buying a puppy from an irresponsible source so long as they don't know any better. But people who do know better and still support them, I have big problems with.

So do you or don't you think it's right to buy from pet stores? Your posts are saying two different things the way I'm reading (see bold).

I understand that shelters have dogs that need homes, but what happens to all the puppies that breeders and pet stores have? they all need homes also, i have read sites about puppmills and petstores who put those puppies to sleep also and abuse them so i dont think theres anything wrong with buying from a breed i have 2 dogs from a breeder and 2 from shelters and go for what go for because i love all my dogs the same, and i feel i saved all there lives anyway.

[angelbow20]

i dont agree with pet stores but i feel for the puppies and read that those puppies get put to sleep sometimes if nobody is willing to buy them, so what i was trying to say is it doesnt have to be a shelter dog to get put to sleep.

[lwds]

i dont agree with pet stores but i feel for the puppies and read that those puppies get put to sleep sometimes if nobody is willing to buy them, so what i was trying to say is it doesnt have to be a shelter dog to get put to sleep.

I see.

Dogs will suffer and die no matter what, because there are too few homes and way too many born. It's a sad fact. That's why it's so important for people to look into where their pets are coming from...