KitCat - Thanks. I don't beleive in not giving a chance. If someone tries and fails that is one thing but to not try at all I just find wrong. That is why I always seemed to end up witht eh harder cases. lol

Dorothy39 - I think that is one of the things I like about cats. If they don't trust you forget it. Ther ei snot much you can do unless you earn that trust. But once you do the results can be very surprising.

phesina - Thanks. I rarely had to use that technique. I think about 5-7 times out of 13 years of fostering did I have to use that technique. The point is to get them to realize that you are a food and resource provider. So first they have to get hungry. I would never allow an animal to go without food for more then 2 days and only for cases like this. In these types of situations food can be a very powerful tool in resocializing and modifying behaviour.
Nicole