Pennsylvania School Shooting :(

**Edwina's Secretary** · 10-03-2006, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by RICHARD

Ai Dios!

Guns do not kill people.....

Bullets and idiots, do.

I have three pistols and a bunch of guns that have never gone out and wanted to kill anyone.

I am for gun control.

Gettting a gun should be as hard, or harder than buying a house.

Then I guess our relationship is over.....

I don't go to house with guns. It is just too, too dangerous....

**sparks19** · 10-03-2006, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

Then I guess our relationship is over.....

I don't go to house with guns. It is just too, too dangerous....

Our house has guns.... Please explain to me what makes my house dangerous.

**Edwina's Secretary** · 10-03-2006, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by sparks19

Our house has guns.... Please explain to me what makes my house dangerous.

Good Luck! guns

**Lady's Human** · 10-04-2006, 12:18 AM

ES, Depends on which stats you are using.

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdguse.html

look at the DOJ list. Using the DOJ stats Johns Hopkins is off by a factor of 10.

**JenBKR** · 10-04-2006, 09:13 AM

You can site a million studies on both sides of the gun issue. Fact is that a house with a gun is no more dangerous than one without, it all depends on the people in the house. I am in favor of gun control, but I do believe that people should be permitted to own guns. I stand by my previous statement that if guns were outlawed then only criminals would have them.

**Cataholic** · 10-04-2006, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by JenBKR

You can site a million studies on both sides of the gun issue. Fact is that a house with a gun is no more dangerous than one without, it all depends on the people in the house. I am in favor of gun control, but I do believe that people should be permitted to own guns. I stand by my previous statement that if guns were outlawed then only criminals would have them.

You must be kidding. Same goes with pools in the back yard, trampolines in the yard, open stairwells, etc. The house/structure IS more dangerous by the existance of such an attractive nuisance. While that might not mean something WILL happen, the very existence of these items raises the danger quota over a home that doesn't have such items.

In my house, no one will EVER be accidently shot with a gun. I forbid, and will continue to forbid, guns in my house. I also do not go to houses with guns. I would not let my son play, sleep over, or visit a house that has guns.

If only criminals have guns, good. I will try my best to steer clear of criminals, too.

**JenBKR** · 10-04-2006, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Cataholic

You must be kidding. Same goes with pools in the back yard, trampolines in the yard, open stairwells, etc. The house/structure IS more dangerous by the existance of such an attractive nuisance. While that might not mean something WILL happen, the very existence of these items raises the danger quota over a home that doesn't have such items.

In my house, no one will EVER be accidently shot with a gun. I forbid, and will continue to forbid, guns in my house. I also do not go to houses with guns. I would not let my son play, sleep over, or visit a house that has guns.

If only criminals have guns, good. I will try my best to steer clear of criminals, too.

My house has a gun, and it is absolutely not more dangerous than a house w/out guns. Why? Because we do not keep bullets in the house. (Or for rifles are they called shells? Not sure on that) My husband is a hunter, but only buys the bullets when he hunts. The bullets never enter the house. He still keeps his guns locked up. My father, who also used to hunt, treated guns the same way. Growing up I knew he hunted, I knew his guns were locked up, and I knew that the bullets never entered the house. I believe it depends on how the guns are treated. I think you might be surprised by how many people you know that have guns in their houses - I certainly was!

Just want to edit to say - I don't like guns personally, I don't ever want one, never want to hunt, never want to use one at all. I have never liked guns. But, I believe that people should be permitted to own them through legal means.

**Edwina's Secretary** · 10-04-2006, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Lady's Human

ES, Depends on which stats you are using.

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdguse.html

look at the DOJ list. Using the DOJ stats Johns Hopkins is off by a factor of 10.

Sort of like quoting scriptures, isn't it? You can find something to prove whatever point you want.

I am sure I will not be shot by a gun kept in the house if I am in a house with no gun. I cannot be sure I won't be shot by a gun in a house with a gun in it.

And please, spare me the guns don't kill people, people do....people with GUNS do....or children who pick up a gun...or someone shooting out the window on New Year's Day..or...or..or

**mugsy** · 10-04-2006, 10:44 AM

I told Mike he had to choose between owning a gun and marrying me because I will not have a gun in my house...however, I am not going to tell someone who legally has a gun that they can't have one, as long as it is properly secured. When Mike was married to his first wife, he had a gun cabinet and multiple guns, but, the kids never got near it under the penalty of severe punishment and it was locked and the kids didn't know where the key was.

Now, sounding like I'm backpedaling here...the Bill of Rights does NOT give the average Joe the right to own a gun. It says in the 2nd Amendment that the MILITIA has the right to bear arms, but, the Supreme Court has muddled that one quite nicely.